84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#106 Post by Harlan Halsey »

Steve,
I'm certain that you realize that that "Sebring" style exhaust is part of that car. I used to see it parked every year at the Carlsen Swap Meet, and always recognized it by that exhaust with its baffle!

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#107 Post by Steve Raucher »

Hi all,
So here are my original wood floor board panels. Thinking of replacing with Stoddard reproductions.
I have the rubber Matt snaps and was wondering if it is best to install while Matt is in the car or out does it even matter?
What is the best way to accurately install?
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#108 Post by John Brooks »

Call Tom Perazzo and look at his version, they fit and his have the access door under the passengers side to store parts.

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#109 Post by Dave Erickson »

Steve Raucher wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:46 pm Hi all,
So here are my original wood floor board panels. Thinking of replacing with Stoddard reproductions.
I have the rubber Matt snaps and was wondering if it is best to install while Matt is in the car or out does it even matter?
What is the best way to accurately install?
You could always call Matt and ask him.

But to answer your installation question, I can only tell you how I did it, not necessarily the best way. First thing to install are the male snaps on the floorboards. Since your original floorboard has snaps on it, you can easily get the locations correct. Then put the floorboards in place and install the floormat. Get the holes for the dimmer and the accelerator pedal stop lined up and get the wrinkles out of the mat so it is laying flat. Then use an awl to punch a hole at the center of a snap, mark it with some white chalk and repeat for the other three. Then remove the floormat and install the female halves of the snaps.

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#110 Post by Harlan Halsey »

I think you might find that patching your originals with wood and epoxy will give you a better fit and much longer life than anything else.

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#111 Post by Steve Raucher »

Hi all,
Updating Speedster resto:
Car should go into primer in the next week or two then it will sit about three weeks before more work on it.
I now need to decide weather or not to do proper Wurth undercoating on the car. Seems to me to have a beautiful outside paint etc then to neglect the underside would be a dis service what are your thoughts? Likely would add about $2500-4K when its all said and done but it would be the bow tie on the refreshing this air loom is receiving.
Hope to get some pictures up before too long on how it is all coming together still a ways to go.
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#112 Post by Steve Proctor »

Absolutely, I would not want to see painted metal behind the front wheels. Not only does undercoat seal the bottom of the car and hide spot welds, etc., it also cushions the impact of any larger rocks that could potentially cause convex dents in the fenders and / or closing panels behind the wheels. I know there are some shops that are using some of the bulletproof bed liner materials.
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#113 Post by John Brooks »

Steve

After the bottom is blasted clean, and treated with formic acid, epoxy primer and urethane seam sealer, I started using a bed liner called “Raptor” it looks like the Wurth shatz, but seals better and is much stronger. The authenticity police will sometimes complain, but it separates the body from atmosphere and elements. We also do the inside of the tub, floors, inside door bottoms, forward of foot boards. We also first use a 3M 8307 clear self leveling seam, a two part Mix-pack with a special gun. It flows into all the weld seams and sticks well and is flex-able. You can see through it to inspect for gaps in the seal. We use two or three coats around the battery box and bush up the sidewall a few inches to keep the acid vapors away.

Before you paint, completely seal up the chassis, using the best products you can afford, the primer quality, and seam seal on all joints is as important as the top coat finish.
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#114 Post by Rhys and Karisa Haydon »

Steve,

Here is the link to the photos of the car. https://empirerestoration.picflow.com/63swaxvv6v
however it looks like it goes through to a broken page.

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#115 Post by Martin Benade »

It worked for me.

I’m surprised they removed all the lead from the door jambs.
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#116 Post by Jim Morris »

They removed all the lead because by this age it and adhesion are likely bad (e.g. rust underneath). They always do this and then replace the factory lead with new lead, not body filler. I saw this car last week and it is well advanced beyond what the photos above show. Gaps and planes are extraordinary.

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#117 Post by Jim Morris »

To Raucher's question above, he should decide soon. Empire will no doubt want to undercoat the car (yes it has been prepared appropriately through epoxy primer. They (Empire) always like to undercoat before paint for obvious reasons. Like them, I prefer for such a car to use Wurth product, but he should discuss with them what material he wants soon.

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#118 Post by Martin Benade »

I didn’t recognize the new material as lead, it should be very nice when it’s done.
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#119 Post by Steve Raucher »

Hey all,
Well it's been almost five months since 84832 was dropped off at Empire.
The other day Epoxy sealer and primer was sprayed on the body,door,deck lid and hood.
Now the fun should begin in earnest.
Still need to paint steering column, under hood black area, under coating and racing fairing body color.
Will update when I can.
KTF,
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#120 Post by Steve Raucher »

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