84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

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Re: Moving forward with paint job Speedster.

#46 Post by Martin Benade »

I trust that Bill’s is familiar with auto body panel blasting and will not warp them.
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Re: Moving forward with paint job Speedster.

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I combined the two topics to put the complete story in one place.
Steve,
I can change the first topic name to whichever title you want which will change future posts to that title.
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Re: Moving forward with paint job Speedster.

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Hi Mark,
Yes combine the story threads under most recent 84832…..
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

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Done
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#50 Post by Steve Raucher »

Hi all,
Has anyone had any experience with Sikkens German auto paint? Always wanted to use Glasurit.
200 year old company good reputation.
My potential painter likes it and uses it. I doubt I could tell the difference between brands.
Now leaning towards base clear coat paint job instead of single stage. Opinions?
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#51 Post by Martin Benade »

SIkkens is a top-notch paint, but most importantly let your painter use what he likes and is familiar with.
Either type of paint is fine, and both will look way better than the car was supposed to look. Nobody can actually tell the difference. My car is single stage because I like the idea and correctness of it, but my bumpers have CC and look just the same as the rest of the car..
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#52 Post by John Brooks »

It’s your car, do what you like. But remember when you see six ruby speedsters in a row, and they are all a different color, that’s why. I have both the Glasuirt and PPG mixtures in my archives if you need them. I used the Glasuirt 22 line get 3 liters.

My color choice is 5713 Glacier white for a speedster.
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

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Martin Benade wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:57 pm SIkkens is a top-notch paint, but most importantly let your painter use what he likes and is familiar with.
Either type of paint is fine, and both will look way better than the car was supposed to look. Nobody can actually tell the difference. My car is single stage because I like the idea and correctness of it, but my bumpers have CC and look just the same as the rest of the car..


+1 It is stupid to tell the painter what to paint!! If you are wedded to a particular paint supplier, then use a painter who uses that paint.

Car paints have gone through generations over the 356 era. Even Glasurit, is no longer oil based, and the 19 Line is long gone. My current opinion is that the American brands are just as good as the European ones and that modern 2 stage, clear over base coat is the way to go. What is important is looking at several samples of the final color to decide on which you want. Base coat tint can be very important.

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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#54 Post by Steve Raucher »

Hi all,
Hood latch to body of car; paint it color of car right?
Also hood latch mounted under hood same or non painted?
Let's talk about the hood gutter area where the rubber mounts to it.
Should painter paint all the way up the edge where metal drops off ?
Here is a pic of the hood parts. My hood latch under nose of hood is buggered up where spring bolt is welded to bracket think I will replace that.
Also rear seat pic with original horsehair material with glue stains.
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#55 Post by Bill Sargent »

The only advantage to single stage paint I know of is the ability to relatively easily repair stone chips.

I have a light ivory 64 C cab painted in 1999 with Spies Hecker single stage acrylic urethane paint. I got an extra pint of the paint and hardener. Periodically I mix up a few drops of paint and hardener to repair stone chips. The area is cleaned with solvent and any loose material carefully removed. Paint is then applied to only the chip with a small brush or toothpick. It may take several applications, with drying in between, until the applied paint is a little proud of the original surface. Careful wet sanding and polishing yield an undetectable repair.

On white and other light colors it works great. On black it would still work but might be slightly visible.

For larger damage repair base & clear has the advantage as the base coat can be blended over an undamaged area and then clear coated to yield an undetectable repair. We recently had damage to a door on an orange metallic Hyundai repaired and it looks perfect.

For a driver or show and shine car I would go base & clear. All out show car - single stage.
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#56 Post by Bill Sargent »

Whatever paint you decide on consider having the primer tinted to match the paint color. That way small stone chips will not be as visible.
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

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Blending out the edge of a clear coat repair is generally not quite undetectable. But nearly so, and better than a blended out edge in single stage. On the Hyundai I’m sure the entire panel was clear coated.
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

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Steve Raucher wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:56 pm Hi all,
Has anyone had any experience with Sikkens German auto paint? Always wanted to use Glasurit.
200 year old company good reputation.
My potential painter likes it and uses it. I doubt I could tell the difference between brands.
Now leaning towards base clear coat paint job instead of single stage. Opinions?
KTF,
Steve
Sikkens is from Holland, not Germany. Great quality yes, but if you have a preferred shop, you should go with what they are used to. Switching to a different paint brand for just one car may be asking for more trouble than it is worth. He may not even be able to order Sikkens through his suppliers.
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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#59 Post by Jim Clement »

Steve- would "Neils Boook" be a good resouce to see what was body colour and whaat was black ?
I know his was a coup. but maybe simmilar ?
 

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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#60 Post by Steve Raucher »

Hi Jim and others,
Think I have a good handle on things as of now.
Just waiting to get into body and paint shop.
I am sure Neil’s book is good.
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