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547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:43 pm
by Harlan Halsey
I thought it would be useful to be able to drive the GT Carrera on the street, but the P-Shooter exhaust is way too noisy. Of course, there was a standard street exhaust complete with heat exchangers for the GS cars, but I wanted, a much simpler exhaust which would simply substitute for the P-Shooter. The obvious solution was to fabricate a copy of the Porsche 356C exhaust which would interface directly with the 5/8" P-Shooter headers. I found a diagram of the internals of the 356 exhaust, it has three chambers, with three internal tubes and three baffles.
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The End sections were lengthened, and the overall length shortened to 356A muffler size.
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I retained the 356 C center output and the S-pipes. It would be easy to move the output pipes to the 11" spacing, of the 356A and I had intended to do that to see what difference it made to the loudness, but I probably won't get around to that any time soon.
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The tail pipes are chrome powder coat which is difficult to tell from chrome plate and a lot easier to fabricate. The muffler is sufficiently quiet to drive on the street, which was the objective. :D

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:10 pm
by Martin Benade
How loud is it compared to a 616? Could you share the C muffler diagram? Looks like you came up with a good solution to the noise.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:15 am
by Harlan Halsey
I knew the loudness question would come up and I don't have a good answer. It's quiet enough to drive on the street. As for the diagram,
I added it. :(

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:46 pm
by Dick Roth
Very cool, Harlan. Miss my 59 GT coupe. Happy to say that after being squashed like a bug and totaled in the disastrous Road Scholars explosion, it is being fully restored in the Netherlands at great expense, but will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes fairly soon.
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Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:41 pm
by Greg Bryan
Harlan - did the 4-cam muffler have a retaining strap on it similar to the Euro exhaust pushrod motors?

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:02 am
by Harlan Halsey
Greg,
There are small, about 1/2" dia., struts which lead from the generator stand mounting studs down through the tray to bands around the exhaust can. Slightly different between the 60 deg V drive and the 90 deg V drive. I duplicated these to support the muffler off the block. Similar function to the 356 Euro exhaust support.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:42 pm
by Alan Klingen 2
Be very careful the exhaust drastically effects the low rpm response of the motor. Alan The Stable.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:30 pm
by Peter Hofmann
Dear guys,
I have two different 547/692 exhausts except the pee shooter, a street one with two pipes and a Sebring with a great sound which works on the street as well,
regards from Germany
Peter
www.classic-parts.com

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:45 pm
by Alan Klingen 2
Be very careful with the exhaust too frre flowing and you can say good bye to any good low=end power. Alan The Stable.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:19 am
by Harlan Halsey
Alan, I don't think that with the roller crank I would use the words low end and power in the same sentence. Carrera 2s may lug around, but my A Carrera only has power above 4,000. Back in the day, service amounted to changing the clutch disk and the plugs every 8,000 miles, so this is nothing new. The purpose of this muffler is only to let me exercise the car a bit between races. It does that.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:30 pm
by Alan Klingen 2
The street exhaust is fine and original but what a bear to fit and install!! Alan The Stable.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:40 am
by Harlan Halsey
Alan Klingen 2 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:30 pm The street exhaust is fine and original but what a bear to fit and install!! Alan The Stable.
My objection to the Carrera street exhaust is simply to the weight and complexity of the thing.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:45 am
by Martin Benade
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My objection to the Carrera street exhaust is simply to the weight and complexity of the thing.
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It shares those qualities with the Carerra engine; it’s perfect.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:27 pm
by Alan Klingen 2
The 4cam becomes almost un-drivable it will lose all it's low-end power. Alan The Stable.

Re: 547 Carrera Street Exhaust

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:54 am
by Joris Koning
Having first hand experience with the 547 street system I can say its a total bear to install. Putting the engine in the car is virtually impossible without at least some scratches.