Paint project on vin 158304 1963 Porsche Cabriolet press car

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Re: Paint project on vin 158304 1963 Porsche Cabriolet press car

#61 Post by Rudy Rodriguez-Duret »

Seats, not original leather, I guess it's a good thing now I don't feel as bad installing the new Autos International leather interior 😂
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#62 Post by C J Murray »

Rudy, where is that leather sample from? Details? Autos I assume but it has more grain, or I am mistaken.
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#63 Post by Rudy Rodriguez-Duret »

Cliff it's from Autos, I also felt it had more grain then normal, but they explain this is a special leather they had made for the 63, they have another one with less grain for the later cars. I thought of using vegetable dyed Mercedes leather which has a much more similar grain, but they convinced me against it. Supposedly when installed it stretches out and you don't see as much of the grains. Your thoughts?
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I don't know but I have two local guys I can ask.
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#65 Post by Rudy Rodriguez-Duret »

I received a picture of original interior and it looks less grainy, not sure if it's do to wear and tear. But does look different, does anyone have a good picture of the original grain?
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#66 Post by Jules Dielen »

This shot shows the 'color history' of your car perfectly. Nobody bothered to sand it well prior to painting. This shows your original bright blue, dark red for interior. Then someone painted it a darker blue closer to aquamarine, with a lighter red, (maybe to match the lighter replacement door panels? ) and finally silver!
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#67 Post by Bill Sargent »

Hi Rudy - the photos you show are of the correct hardtop rear interior upholstered quarter panels. To use a soft top these panels must be switched with the soft top specific quarter panels. They are much smaller and sit away from the rear inner quarter fenders to provide a place for the cab top mechanism to fold down into. If you are missing the cab top rear interior quarter panels they can be purchased from Autos International. They come flat and will require shaping with an English wheel to fit properly. After correctly shaped they can be upholstered.

I will be interested to hear what the Reutter Certificate tells you. And to see if things like the change to disc brakes are on the Kardex. As Jules has noted it would be surprising if the factory put disc brakes on the car in April 63, especially given that the disc brake wheels are dated several months later. However the factory could well have made the change several months later. If they did, hopefully it is on the Kardex.

I have an early C cab made in August 1963 - chassis 159176.
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My post #32 has pictures of the factory original interior of my 63 Cab 158699, the next to last B Cab. Those pictures can be blown up to great detail by clicking on them twice.
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#69 Post by Rudy Rodriguez-Duret »

Great picture Cliff, Definitely see the difference!
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Here are factory leather seats from 1967 which have had not too much abuse.
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#71 Post by Rudy Rodriguez-Duret »

Cliff, the leather is definitely different, I think my best best is to go with a German vegetable dyed that can be color matched matched and has a similar grain. In this pic are your 2 originals on top and the 2 options offered by AI. The lighter option has less of a grainy look, but the color is also off.
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#72 Post by C J Murray »

It's enough to drive you crazy which is why I think most people just go with what is readily available. It is also questionable what the leather will look like after it has been used for awhile. If the German leather stretches and sags(my originals look to have sagged) then maybe the surface texture changes as well. When the 356s were new you could walk up to one and know instantly if it had leather and where, just the seats or everywhere. The leather clearly looked different from the vinyl and other than color there was no attempt to make them match. Today leather is synthesized to be identical everywhere and also match the vinyl areas.
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