84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

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Re: 84832 '58 Speedster strip down pre paint.

#76 Post by Steve Raucher »

Jim,
Which T2 Mfg. pipe fits and looks best and readily available to stick out holes in bumper guards.
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Martin Benade wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:53 pm The S pipes go into the funnels in the bumper guards without touching them. No straight section.
Eiseman (sp) or Porsche factory ones are reputed to look stock and fit, and cost a lot. Jules, is that correct?
Newish production Dansk are said to fit but crack pretty soon.
Porsche makes zero parts for our cars. There is no such thing as 'factory porsche' for our 356s unless it was produced in the 50s or 60s. They just buy the better repro parts and put a sticker on it.

Eisenmann is nice but only comes as 'race' or 'sport' and is much too tinny sounding.
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#78 Post by Martin Benade »

Instead of factory I should have said Porsche Classic, which I hear looks sort of like a Dansk but nobody knows if it is or not.
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#79 Post by Dave Erickson »

The only option for through-bumper exhaust for a T2 is Dansk. I have read that Porsche Classic 356 mufflers are made by Dansk, like the one in the photo above. I have one on my Conv. D motor. Dansk also makes the "sport" muffler for 356A, but it has fixed tailpipes that do not come out through the bumper. My Dansk muffler was a pain to get aligned, I ended up doing some surgery to get it to fit.

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Martin Benade wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:59 pm Instead of factory I should have said Porsche Classic, which I hear looks sort of like a Dansk but nobody knows if it is or not.
Porsche classic also does not manufacture a single part. They merely source the better repro stuff and put a sticker on it (and ask an appropriate price since it now has a factory sticker)
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#81 Post by Martin Benade »

Agreed
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#82 Post by Dan Macdonald »

Not much has changed. Back when our cars were made, Porsche sourced almost all of the parts...even the bodies!
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Jules Dielen wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:25 am
Martin Benade wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:59 pm Instead of factory I should have said Porsche Classic, which I hear looks sort of like a Dansk but nobody knows if it is or not.
Porsche classic also does not manufacture a single part. They merely source the better repro stuff and put a sticker on it (and ask an appropriate price since it now has a factory sticker)
Apparently, Jules, you are not aware that Porsche never manufactured parts. Porsche, like most engineering companies bought everything from suppliers, then did some assembly and some quality control. Porsche dealer spare parts were always marked up from the supplier's price. "After market" means that someone has identified a Porsche supplier and bought direct, using Porsche developed design. Or it could mean that someone has designed a part which functions rather like the original and is marketing it as a substitute.

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#84 Post by Martin Benade »

Things like engine cases weren’t cast and machined in-house?
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Martin Benade wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:29 am Things like engine cases weren’t cast and machined in-house?
Porsche did NO casting.
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Harlan Halsey wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:56 am
Jules Dielen wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:25 am
Martin Benade wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:59 pm Instead of factory I should have said Porsche Classic, which I hear looks sort of like a Dansk but nobody knows if it is or not.
Porsche classic also does not manufacture a single part. They merely source the better repro stuff and put a sticker on it (and ask an appropriate price since it now has a factory sticker)
Apparently, Jules, you are not aware that Porsche never manufactured parts. Porsche, like most engineering companies bought everything from suppliers, then did some assembly and some quality control. Porsche dealer spare parts were always marked up from the supplier's price. "After market" means that someone has identified a Porsche supplier and bought direct, using Porsche developed design. Or it could mean that someone has designed a part which functions rather like the original and is marketing it as a substitute.
I think you understand what I mean Harlan. There is something to say for the old 'Genuine Porsche' or NOS part that was produced when the cars were rolling off the line. They fit like a glove. I would happily pay extra if Porsche supplied correct authentic parts from the original suppliers if they are still around (say if leistritz were still around and Porsche had them make a perfect run of mufflers or if Porsche finally offered a B/C horn grill with the correct rivets exclusively)

Now you just get the same part you can buy anywhere at a significant upcharge just because someone slapped a sticker on it.

99% of the 'after market' parts do not come from the OEM supplier. Just like a Hermes bag from China isn't a Hermes bag.
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Jules Dielen wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:11 pm 99% of the 'after market' parts do not come from the OEM supplier. Just like a Hermes bag from China isn't a Hermes bag.
In 1995 I bought a new Rolex in Hong Kong for $25. Chap in a street market had them festooned inside his trench coat. What are you telling me?
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#88 Post by rob greene »

Can't go wrong with silver IMHO. It is timeless and especially identified with Porsche marque. Don't worry about carpets. Oatmeal is a great color. If it doesn't feel right, carpets are easy to change, as is interior in Speedster--relatively speaking cost and effort wise compared to a bare metal repaint. As a friend whose BFF said to him just before he died at age 95, "don't wait" :)

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#89 Post by Steve Raucher »

Here are pre and post epoxy primer photos from today.
Some holes filled to.
Soon body work will begin.
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#90 Post by Martin Benade »

It’s really happening!
I bet you have a bunch of skills and knowledge now that you didn’t have last year. I admire you for digging in.
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