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Front turn signals position

#1 Post by Dr Oliver Strobel »

Hi.
Can anybody confirm my measurement concerning the position of the 53 (54,55) Pre A front turn signals? Passengers side. Thanks and have a nice sunday 😎
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#2 Post by Spencer Harris »

Oliver, you've got too many holes marked for a '53 - No horn grills on '53 models. I'll take some measurements later today and post them.
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#3 Post by Martin Langer »

Hello Oliver,
Based on my measurements and reviews of documents I can confirm the 7mm offset from the center of the headlight as well as the vertical dimensions.
As Spencer already mentioned, the remaining horizontal dimensions must be deleted. They are not relevant for the sheet metal. The location of the screws of the chrome ring are defined by the turn signal lamp unit.
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Oliver, Sorry I got sidetracked and forgot to take measurements from my car. I'll do this today and confirm yours and Martin's measurements.
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#5 Post by Spencer Harris »

Here's what I come up with Oliver.

As Martin points out, the black dots on your picture represent the mounting screws for the bezel and are irrelevant to threaded holes in your nose piece. Your photo comes up sideways on my computer screen so I was a bit confused when I first looked at it. After saving the photo and opening it right-side-up from my drive, I see what each of your marks represent.

The workshop manual shows center to center for the headlights as 1160 mm. For confirmation I measured c to c of the headlight bezel screws as 1162.5 mm which should be within acceptable tolerance.

As far as the signal light positions, I concur with your spacing numbers except I was not able to accurately measure the 7 mm offset. Instead I calculated the distance as shown on my sketch. Also the diameter of the large hole for the fixture center on my nose panel measures 29 mm vs, 21 mm on your sketch.

I measured a dozen old beehive fixtures and the mounting hole spacing ranged from 55.6 to 56.2 mm.

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Perfect, thanks a lot, Spencer and Martin.
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#7 Post by Tom Kaiser »

Spencer,

Do you have this measures also for the rear lights ,
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#8 Post by Martin Langer »

Hello Tom,

You may have heard that Spencer passed away in August. What a loss, I will definitely miss him!
My Pre-A would for sure not be as nice without his support and detailed information during the restoration period.

Here is a sketch Spencer came up with regarding the dimensions for the rear lights.
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In comparison to the front, the rear dimesions are more difficult to deal with, since the body panels are bent more and the distances to firm reference points are larger.

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#9 Post by Tom Kaiser »

Thanks for your message , Martin

Sad news about Spencer , i had many contacts with , always very supportive and knowledgeable

Tom

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