Ignition Switch Identification help......please

[J Warren]

Hey guys,

I have a few ignitions I am needing some help on, Ultimately I need one for my 1957 T1 Coupe but am unsure if the second switch( the one with the key) would be appropriate.
The first switch is marked 22715. Made in Germany. A circle K and has 10108 PE electrostenciled on it. Would this be for a 912 or early 911?

The second switch( the one with the key) is marked 21585, Made in Germany, and electrostenciled K103. Would this switch be correct for a T1 356?

Thank you in advance for your help.

J

Switch 1

Switch 1

Switch 1

Switch 1

Switch 1

[Garry Haussler]

The spade terminal is early 911 / 912, the bullet terminal 100 series is for 58 to 61. The switch you want is the same as Mercedes 190 SL.

[Jules Dielen]

Neither one is correct for a 57. You need one of these with screw terminals.

[J Warren]

Thank you both for the information. I will keep digging.
J

[Tom Scott]

Here is a list of part numbers for various 356 switches you might find interesting.
356 Switch Part Numbers
Ignition Part Number
1950-1952 SH/ZS3/1
1952 SH/ZS1/1
1953-1955 SH/ZS4/1
1956-1957 T1 SH/AS1/5
1957-1961 T2,T5 8275
1962-1965 8276
Key Codes
11-Jun-57 F083 64115.00
19-Jul-57 F100 K182
13-Dec-57 F082 K198
22-Apr-58 K169 K169
10-Jan-59 K100 K100

Head Light
1858-1959 202501
1962-1965 8465/2

Wiper

1956-1961 Single Pull, Four Pole No Number
1962-1963 8085
1964-1965 8085
Tom Scott

[Jim Breazeale]

The "spade terminal" switch is for a US "late" (68 or 69) 912 or 911. Early (66 and 67)911s and 912s made for the US had bullet connectors

[James Davies]

Tom, a small correction:

1952-1954 SH/ZS1/1
1954-1955 SH/ZS4/1

The switch to the SH/SZ 4/1 and its C-code keys was after the start of the 1954 model year in ~April 1954. Relevant chassis numbers:

52033 31.05.54 Bxxx
52041 07.05.54 Bxxx
52046 07.07.54 Bxxx
52047 28.05.54 Bxxx
52054 25.05.54 Bxxx
52071 05.04.54 Cxxx
52094 26.05.54 Cxxx
52110 25.05.54 Cxxx
52114 25.05.54 Cxxx
52140 11.06.54 Cxxx

[J Warren]

Thank you much gentlemen!

[Jules Dielen]

Pretty sure those are early vw or karmann ghia

[Wes Bender]

... and certainly not ignition switches, although I guess one could get creative....

[Norfried Bittner]

Oops, sorry guys, should go to bed! Wrong topic surely these are not ignition switches but early light switches - I´ll move my posts tomorrow, or start a new one ...

Good night

[Garry Haussler]

Those two headlight switches are early Porsche.

[Greg Bryan]

I am not an early Porsche expert, but my stash of original wiring diagrams show a three terminal light switch through the 53 model year with those terminal numbers. 30-hot; 56-to the dip switch; 58-to the running lights. Of course, the earliest cars had the rotary switches.
In 54, the switch has a 58b for the instrument illumination with rheostat.
The 57 terminal, which is hot on the first detent only shows up in the T2 diagram, but it also has a 58b terminal.
So the three terminal switch could be a Porsche switch - it certainly has the Porsche retaining nut.
The 4 terminal switch, I am not certain but it doesn't appear to be a Porsche switch.
Also, I believe that the Euro cars and USA cars used the same switches - they did use the same wiring harness.