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Fuse block diagram
Pardon if this is been covered. I would like a fuse block diagram for my 1960 356B. I am having a problem with my wipers blowing fuses. I need to know what fuse it is supposed to have and where it is so I can track back the problem. Thanks for any help or advise.
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Re: Fuse block diagram
Check the Registry Magazine page 58. This article refers to a 356C, but I think all the 356 fuse blocks have the same arrangement. At least something to start solving your problem.
The fuse is #4 for the wipers and interior lights. It uses an 8/15 amp fuse.
https://porsche356registry-production-p ... 1483475517
The fuse is #4 for the wipers and interior lights. It uses an 8/15 amp fuse.
https://porsche356registry-production-p ... 1483475517
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Here you go ...
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Thanks so much for the diagram. Funny thing. My cigar lighter and clock both work but my trouble light socket is dead. Anyone have a thought why. Thanks
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Check for voltage at the socket - I'm not familiar with what they look like as my car doesn't have one. There should be battery voltage at the socket at all times.
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My socket appeared dead but it turned out the repainted dash had insulated the ground side.
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Re: Fuse block diagram
What do they mean by an 8/15 amp fuse?
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I was baffled by that too but was unwilling to admit it.
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Any idea on what happens midway between those numbers? Also do the behave the same as a modern fuse with only one number?
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Not sure what happens in the gray area - I think the amperage can stray or spike into the 8-15 range for short periods but will blow at anything over 15 amps
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Interesting discussion. Going to have my mechanic/electrician look it over to see why my wipers blow the fuse. Real pain in a rain storm. Bet it has something to do with the wiper motor.
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Re: Fuse block diagram
Terry - If there is too much mechanical resistance in the W/S wiper mechanism, the motor will drawing more current as it spins slower - as a motor spins faster, there is more counter (or back) electomotive force which naturally limits current. If a motor spins slower than designed, current increases because there is less CEMF. I would say that's the most likely cause.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-e ... tive_force
The motor itself or its related circuitry can also have a fault that causes it to draw too much current.
You can (not easily) see if the wiper linkage is binding or sticky due to wear or lack of lubricant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-e ... tive_force
The motor itself or its related circuitry can also have a fault that causes it to draw too much current.
You can (not easily) see if the wiper linkage is binding or sticky due to wear or lack of lubricant.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
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Terry
if the wipers are blowing fuses, either the motor is spinning too slow due to excess drag in the mechanical side, or the brushes need to be replaced or the armature needs undercutting. (making sure the slot between the windings is clean and electrically isolated from the next one).
all are relatively easy,
1. Remove the wiper arms or fold them up, and run the motor and let the stubs spin for 5-10 minutes. Feel the motor for getting hot. Pop a fuse?? This will tell you if its the motor or an alignment in the mechanical portion. Removing the arms will reduce the drag on the motor. It also may allow the grease to soften and lube a dry spot inside the gearbox. A hot motor indicates the brushes or the armature are failing. If the fuse blows pull the motor. .
if its was hot remove the motor and pull it apart. Couple screws and a clean table to work on. Look at the carbon brush length, replace if necessary. Then look at the armature commutator where the brushes rub. There should be a thin clean gap between each contact. if not this can be cleaned and scraped until there is a small groove between each contact. They are wired in pairs on opposite sides so you can run a multi-meter in resistance across each pair for continuity.
Wipers are pretty easy, power from the switch 53 is on, they run until its off, then it will park using the power from 53a until the parking switch opens removing all power.
if the wipers are blowing fuses, either the motor is spinning too slow due to excess drag in the mechanical side, or the brushes need to be replaced or the armature needs undercutting. (making sure the slot between the windings is clean and electrically isolated from the next one).
all are relatively easy,
1. Remove the wiper arms or fold them up, and run the motor and let the stubs spin for 5-10 minutes. Feel the motor for getting hot. Pop a fuse?? This will tell you if its the motor or an alignment in the mechanical portion. Removing the arms will reduce the drag on the motor. It also may allow the grease to soften and lube a dry spot inside the gearbox. A hot motor indicates the brushes or the armature are failing. If the fuse blows pull the motor. .
if its was hot remove the motor and pull it apart. Couple screws and a clean table to work on. Look at the carbon brush length, replace if necessary. Then look at the armature commutator where the brushes rub. There should be a thin clean gap between each contact. if not this can be cleaned and scraped until there is a small groove between each contact. They are wired in pairs on opposite sides so you can run a multi-meter in resistance across each pair for continuity.
Wipers are pretty easy, power from the switch 53 is on, they run until its off, then it will park using the power from 53a until the parking switch opens removing all power.
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