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356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#1 Post by Frank Swanson » Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:19 pm

1964 356C Karmann Coupe #217202, COA Birth/Delivery Date: 04-01-1964

What is the correct Outer Seat Rail Supports for my 356C. Did the C Karmann Coupe possibly start out with Outer Seat Rail Supports same as in the B catalog and then changed to that shown in the C Supplement Katalog or do all 1964 C's have the Outer Seat Rail Supports as shown in the 356 USA 60 65 Katalog? Here is a photo that I found on a 356 Talk Search and also the 356 B & C Group 7 Katalog pages.

Have not found any 356 vendors that sell the Outer Seat Rail Supports, nor did I find any on eBay or Samba. Does anyone have a pair that they would like to sell? Any suggestions are appreciated.

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Re: 356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#2 Post by Martin Benade » Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:22 pm

Stoddard sell one like in the photo which is the same as my T6 B has for front mounts. I thought the C used the same ones but I don’t know that for sure.
My Stoddard bolts were also like in the photo- too long.
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Re: 356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#3 Post by David Jones » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:07 pm

Frank, I have one going spare with the seat rail. It's the right side outer.
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#4 Post by Martin Benade » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:31 pm

Front or rear mount?
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Re: 356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#5 Post by Frank Swanson » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:46 pm

To clarify I am looking for a set of right and left Outer Seat Rail Supports (I think its part # 644.521.017 & .018) that support the seat guide rails and bolts to the front and rear support mount that is welded to the outer floor pan next to the longitudinals.
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#6 Post by Martin Benade » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:19 pm

Stoddard (or NLA) has that in a kit, says for all T6 $166.
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Re: 356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#7 Post by Brad Ripley » Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:13 pm

To answer Frank's original question --

The seat rail mounts are/were 644 521 303 06, four required. Not available
but plentiful on the used market. Look for good used ones on Ebay such as https://www.ebay.com/itm/265560707140?h ... Sw5rViE~CW

BTW, seat rails (only) are available, set of four, see 644 521 301 06 See https://www.stoddard.com/64452130106.html

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#8 Post by Martin Benade » Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:47 pm

Brad, what mounts do you mean? The only parts that there are four of are the bolts and the tracks. The mounts on a C are two fronts and two rears.
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Re: 356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#9 Post by Frank Swanson » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:18 pm

Brad R, Yes the seat rail mounts on eBay at the address below look great (wow $475) for my driver if I also finish the restoration before I die. Why do you need four? The eBay ones have 7 each bolt holes just like the seat rails. I thought one on the outside of each seat was all you needed, because the inner seat rails are mounted on the 356C tunnel.
Thanks for your help Brad R.
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#10 Post by David Jones » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:49 pm

I think I can do way better than that price Frank. Contact me.
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Re: 356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#11 Post by John Wurner » Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:59 pm

If you are looking for the long supports that bolt to the floor, where four bolts are located, two front and two rear, I have a set of those.
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#12 Post by David Jones » Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:12 pm

John, those are for pre T6. Not what Frank needs.
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Re: 356C Outer Seat Rail Supports

#13 Post by John Wurner » Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:26 pm

Thanks, David.

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