Doug McDonnell wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 4:05 pm
Jay Find your nearest Sate Police Post and stop in and talk to a State Police person. In Michigan there is a Stae Police person in each area of the State specially trained to do VIN checks. Perhaps Oregon is the same? Certainly there in Oregon they have seen California cars titled by engine number before. It wasn't uncommon back in the day. After all None of our cars fit the Modern VIN system.
To me, Jay's main problem is that the vin on his title is not to be found anywhere on the car. Even with the COA and the Kardex in hand, the only thing on the title that matches the car is the make and maybe the year. No engine number to make the case for the more common CA 'engine number vin'... I hope there is a Speedster in the USA with the engine listed on Jay's title, he could make a case that is 'his' car
With inspection Jay can show that his chassis is 150066 which he has the COA for. Kardex might be even better. With published information and maybe with a letter from Porsche it can be shown that The title #P63632 was never a Porsche Chassis and even the number 63632 was never used by Porsche except for an engine from 1956 2 years before his chassis was built so his current title is in error. Now especially if the body panels can be shown to have 066 in the appropriate places on inspection the chassis can be searched for previous title by the powers that be. Personally I would contact Porsche for assistance and with a lawyer try to get things sorted.
1965 356C 2000 BMW 740i Sport 1967 Honda CL77 There is never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over.
Harry Shriver wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 8:45 pm
What year does the title say?
Harry, the title says 10/19/70, just about the time i received it. i had this title put in my name. i do have the registration from 1968 with the persons name on it that i got the car from, serial # is still the same P63632. this is probably to be expected as they just transferred one title to the other and the car was never inspected.
Jay D.
Doug McDonnell wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 10:17 am
The fact that the title # starts with a P would indicate to me that it was titled by engine number- and maybe not even the original number as Eric's site indicates it would have had an engine 67001-68216 if a Normal.
Doug, the car is a 58 normal, production date 02/11/1958. the COA says the engine number is 68682.
Thanks Jay D.
It is a 1958 Normal
1965 356C 2000 BMW 740i Sport 1967 Honda CL77 There is never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over.
The engine number listed on Jay's title is from a december 56 T1 coupe. You will have a helluva time explaining to the mvd that your title has anything to do with a 58 cab.
Jules Dielen wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:37 pm
The engine number listed on Jay's title is from a december 56 T1 coupe. You will have a helluva time explaining to the mvd that your title has anything to do with a 58 cab.
so where did you get this information and is this engine still out there? i did check my trans number 18363 and it is the same as the COA says it is, so we have one thing right? paint code and interior color matches also.
Jay D.
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Jules Dielen wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 1:37 pm
The engine number listed on Jay's title is from a december 56 T1 coupe. You will have a helluva time explaining to the mvd that your title has anything to do with a 58 cab.
so where did you get this information and is this engine still out there?
Jay D.
