Hot starting issue

[Neil Bardsley]

I've recently replaced the started in my 6v A. I replaced a VW type with another vw type. After a hot drive, engine over 210, the starter refused to turn. I have an in dash amp meter so I can see the starter drawing 30 plus amps but not engaging and trying to turn the fly wheel. I cleaned all the contact points when I put the new starter in. I also have a relay in place. I've read that the solenoid can get heat soaked? My guess is that somehow the solenoid is getting stuck. I read on here about Harry Pellow hitting it with a hammer. I'm not sure what the answer is. I have the old starter out of the car so I might try to service that?

[John Clarke]

Hi Neil
Give Paul a call at PRS. He's near You? He will sort it. Sounds like a stuck solenoid, The preferred 'Turkey / Emergency method is a light tap with said hammer!
Regards Jay

[Neil Bardsley]

Thank you. It will start perfectly now it's cooled down.

[Neil Bardsley]

I'm thinking about installing a heat shield like this

https://www.agriemach.com/p401-starter- ... eld-7-x-22

[Adam Wright]

Make sure you check all your grounds, the one in the battery box especially. A little corrosion will cause the car to not want to start when hot. Clean them real good with a wire brush, it might do the trick.

[David Jones]

That heat shield is to shield from adjacent radiated heat like from an exhaust manifold. On a Porsche or VW it will just help to keep the heat in the starter after shutdown.

[Neil Bardsley]

Make sure you check all your grounds, the one in the battery box especially. A little corrosion will cause the car to not want to start when hot. Clean them real good with a wire brush, it might do the trick.

Thank you. I've cleaned and double cleaned all the contact points. I've actually replaced the battery earth strap/wire.

[Al Zim]

Have your old starter rebuilt..Find a reputable rebuilder. We have rebuilt starters in stock (2) ready to ship. With an ohm meter check the first 2 feet of the cable that runs to the starter and attaches to the battery. Sometime the corrosion is in the cable itself...it has been a minimum of 57 years since they were new.

[John Clarke]

Sounds like another Ad to Me !

[Al Zim]

Mr. Clark et all ! This is an advertisement! I have written advertisements for products that other vendors sell exclusively. NO KICKBACKS FOR ZIM'S!
If you have a method for assisting our members in finding parts I will be glad to pay you for your ideas. We spend hundreds of thousand of dollars on parts and outside machine work and thusly we have knowledge. Other parts suppliers have knowledge, for sure. But Zim's is one of the few large facilities that sells parts and actually repairs 356 automobiles continually. al zim

[Wes Bender]

Have your old starter rebuilt..Find a reputable rebuilder. We have rebuilt starters in stock (2) ready to ship. With an ohm meter check the first 2 feet of the cable that runs to the starter and attaches to the battery. Sometime the corrosion is in the cable itself...it has been a minimum of 57 years since they were new.

Al, could you walk me through the procedure of using an ohmmeter to check the first 2 feet of that cable? Try as I might, I can't get it to check very much less than the entire length. Granted, I'm not an electrical engineer, but it should be a simple operation one would think. Do you strip any of the wire? Maybe probe the cable with a needle? How does Zim's do it in the shop?

[John Clarke]

Why The Capital Letters Al?
Just send a PM to Neil. Don't get the arse! We all know our cars age and there seems to be many very talented artisans in the States that are more than capable of keeping these old cars on the road. We do value the services that You provide, but we don't like being shouted at !
Regards Jay

[Brian R Adams]

That heat shield is to shield from adjacent radiated heat like from an exhaust manifold. On a Porsche or VW it will just help to keep the heat in the starter after shutdown.

We need one made of material akin to Gore-Tex, but one-way transfer of heat rather than moisture.
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[Dave Erickson]

I read on here about Harry Pellow hitting it with a hammer.

I used to have a VW bus with the same problem. A long breaker bar was the perfect tool to rap the starter with from outside the wheel.

[Brian R Adams]

I read on here about Harry Pellow hitting it with a hammer.

I used to have a VW bus with the same problem. A long breaker bar was the perfect tool to rap the starter with from outside the wheel.

Just install a solenoid of some sort (from a pinball machine?) positioned to rap the side of the starter when you push a button under the dash. But where to mount it?
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