Abarth Exhaust thread
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Re: Abarth Exhaust thread
Can anyone clarify how Carlo Abarth"s last name was pronounced?
AY-barth is definitely not right. I suspect it is pronounced somewhat like the English word "apart". Same stressed last syllable but with a "b" in place of the "p".
He was born an Austrian despite the Italian sounding first name, so I suspect the final "th" would never be pronounced like our "th", but like the hard "th" in the German word "Thueringen". (can't do umlauts on this damned computer)
AY-barth is definitely not right. I suspect it is pronounced somewhat like the English word "apart". Same stressed last syllable but with a "b" in place of the "p".
He was born an Austrian despite the Italian sounding first name, so I suspect the final "th" would never be pronounced like our "th", but like the hard "th" in the German word "Thueringen". (can't do umlauts on this damned computer)
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Abarth Exhaust thread
I'd go for "abbart" - both short 'A's.
but it all depends on what country you are from. Our friends from France
would have their way. Spain the same.
I do this for a living (sort of)
Jules
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Can anyone clarify how Carlo Abarth"s last name was pronounced?
AY-barth is definitely not right. I suspect it is pronounced somewhat
like the English word "apart". Same stressed last syllable but with a
"b" in place of the "p".
He was an Austrian despite the Italian sounding first name, so I suspect
the final "th" would never be pronounced like our "th", but like the
hard "th" in the German word "Thueringen". (can't do umlauts on this
damned computer)
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but it all depends on what country you are from. Our friends from France
would have their way. Spain the same.
I do this for a living (sort of)
Jules
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From: Michael Carmody [mailto:post-meridian@sbcglobal.net]
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Subject: [356Talk] Abarth Exhaust thread
Can anyone clarify how Carlo Abarth"s last name was pronounced?
AY-barth is definitely not right. I suspect it is pronounced somewhat
like the English word "apart". Same stressed last syllable but with a
"b" in place of the "p".
He was an Austrian despite the Italian sounding first name, so I suspect
the final "th" would never be pronounced like our "th", but like the
hard "th" in the German word "Thueringen". (can't do umlauts on this
damned computer)
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Abarth Exhaust thread
Btw - the umlaut letters on US keyboards are in the numbered keyboard with asci-codes:
So: ä is alt+132, ü is alt +129 and ö = alt+148
Make sure numlock is on.
Lesson 2 will be the same, but in caps.
Enjoy
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Subject: [356Talk] Abarth Exhaust thread
Can anyone clarify how Carlo Abarth"s last name was pronounced?
AY-barth is definitely not right. I suspect it is pronounced somewhat like the English word "apart". Same stressed last syllable but with a "b" in place of the "p".
He was an Austrian despite the Italian sounding first name, so I suspect the final "th" would never be pronounced like our "th", but like the hard "th" in the German word "Thueringen". (can't do umlauts on this damned computer)
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So: ä is alt+132, ü is alt +129 and ö = alt+148
Make sure numlock is on.
Lesson 2 will be the same, but in caps.
Enjoy
Jules
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Subject: [356Talk] Abarth Exhaust thread
Can anyone clarify how Carlo Abarth"s last name was pronounced?
AY-barth is definitely not right. I suspect it is pronounced somewhat like the English word "apart". Same stressed last syllable but with a "b" in place of the "p".
He was an Austrian despite the Italian sounding first name, so I suspect the final "th" would never be pronounced like our "th", but like the hard "th" in the German word "Thueringen". (can't do umlauts on this damned computer)
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Re: Abarth Exhaust thread
Great way to make a living and thanks for the info!
Mike
Mike
Jules Dielen wrote:I'd go for "abbart" - both short 'A's.
but it all depends on what country you are from. Our friends from France
would have their way. Spain the same.
I do this for a living (sort of)
Jules
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From: Michael Carmody [mailto:post-meridian@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 2:19 PM
To: 356talk@356registry.com
Subject: [356Talk] Abarth Exhaust thread
Can anyone clarify how Carlo Abarth"s last name was pronounced?
AY-barth is definitely not right. I suspect it is pronounced somewhat
like the English word "apart". Same stressed last syllable but with a
"b" in place of the "p".
He was born an Austrian despite the Italian sounding first name, so I suspect
the final "th" would never be pronounced like our "th", but like the
hard "th" in the German word "Thueringen". (can't do umlauts on this
damned computer)
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P-912
It sounds very sporty, and when you're standing next to it when it is not in the air I don't think it sticks out too far. My father has one on his 64' coupe. The P-912 is hard to find you could probably get a pretty penny for it if you don't use it. However I haven't seen one that doesn't have that special driveway mods.
Here are a few pictures of a P-912 on my fathers '64.
Here are a few pictures of a P-912 on my fathers '64.
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912 ABARTH
I have a 912 engine with a 912 abarth muffler. Will the muffler work with my 54 coupe without adjustment of the exhaust pipes? I am worred about body clearance.
thanks,
MichaelB
thanks,
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Re: 912 DREAM ENGINE REBUILD
Bring back an old thread as I am currently on the hunt for a "new" 4 tip for a project...Victor Van Phan wrote:Hello All:
I am thinking about placing a 912 motor in an A car.
My goal is to keep things "looking" stock but want more power and performance.
I was hoping to get some collective thoughts from everyone - experts/layman (Al, Allan, Tom, Brad, Ed, John, Roy, Rick)- as to what they would use or have done in the rebuild (ie cam, rods etc) of a 912 going into a A car.
Would I have to do anything to the stock transmission?
Lastly, any recommendations on an exhaust to go with the 912 motor rebuild.
Thanks for everyone's input and advice.
Email me directly or post to the board
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Anyways to answer your question, my '54 has an SC engine in it bore out to 1720cc (??) with 48 IDA's, but it ran great with the stock P-11's too. It came with the 4 tip pictured, but I have no idea of it's origin or make.
If fit right into the engine bay with no issues, I can even pull it without removing the IDA's.
Back to Abarth 4 tips, NLA is the place to get them new, is that right?
My trans is the stock 519 with no mods at all. Drives great, sounds great, looks great!
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Re: 912 DREAM ENGINE REBUILD
It looks like an original Abarth. If you look at the ad's for them in the beginning of this thread you will notice the 6 rings around the can. I have not seen a repop with the rings on the can.Greg Banfill wrote: It came with the 4 tip pictured, but I have no idea of it's origin or make.
I have seen them for sale there. However, just went to their website & did not see them. Perhaps they are out of stock? Brad from NLA frequents the list, maybe he can give us an update.Greg Banfill wrote:Back to Abarth 4 tips, NLA is the place to get them new, is that right?
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I'm glad Al and a couple of other guys mentioned what a pain in the butt they are to install. The flanges were not parallel and in one case I recall they were twisted so that I had to use a torch to get them to line up with the head studs. But of all the exhausts for a 356, in my opinion, they made the nicest noise!
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Here are some ads from the 50's and 60's about Abarth "4-tips"!
October 1957 Road & Track
March 1959 Road & Track
Performance Products 1966
These and others are on my Aftermarket Accessories Website at:
http://derwhites356literature.com/356Po ... ories.html
Charlie White
October 1957 Road & Track
March 1959 Road & Track
Performance Products 1966
These and others are on my Aftermarket Accessories Website at:
http://derwhites356literature.com/356Po ... ories.html
Charlie White
Charlie White
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EXHAUST SYSTEM IN PRE-A
I pulled this out of a 912. I don't think its Abarth, just a late-style look a like.
And from measuring I think it will fit no problem in my Pre-A.
MichaelB
And from measuring I think it will fit no problem in my Pre-A.
MichaelB
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Abarth Exhaust thread
Jules,
I installed an old (but never used) Monza style exhaust that looks exactly like the Abarth in the last picture of the three ads that Charlie sent. It was snug, but I got the engine in by myself, with some help from my wife!
Here, hopefully, are some pictures of it right after I bought it.
Wayne
http://picasaweb.google.com/waynearny/P ... directlink
On Dec 21, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jules Dielen wrote:
I installed an old (but never used) Monza style exhaust that looks exactly like the Abarth in the last picture of the three ads that Charlie sent. It was snug, but I got the engine in by myself, with some help from my wife!
Here, hopefully, are some pictures of it right after I bought it.
Wayne
http://picasaweb.google.com/waynearny/P ... directlink
On Dec 21, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jules Dielen wrote:
Post generated using Mail2Forum via email.Has anyone tried to fit the 'late style' larger tip 4 tip under an A car? Does this even fit or are the tips too high?
Jules
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