Heron Gray reproduction
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Heron Gray reproduction
Hi,
My bodyshop is looking for the right "Heron Gray" to paint my 356 BT6 as closed as original. The original code is 6207 or R739 (reutter)
I understand that is quite complex to reproduce the color using modern paint (I'm in France, without 356 Heron gray around me)
I've found this code :
and also this combination :
Heron (6207)
97.8 1051 white
1.4 1052 black
0.8 1053 ocher
what do you recommend ?
Thank you for your support toward full matching project
My bodyshop is looking for the right "Heron Gray" to paint my 356 BT6 as closed as original. The original code is 6207 or R739 (reutter)
I understand that is quite complex to reproduce the color using modern paint (I'm in France, without 356 Heron gray around me)
I've found this code :
and also this combination :
Heron (6207)
97.8 1051 white
1.4 1052 black
0.8 1053 ocher
what do you recommend ?
Thank you for your support toward full matching project
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
Glasurit has mixes for this color in all their lines, 22, 55 and 90. It is listed under "Reihergrau".
But like all mixes with modern pigments, one needs to spray them out and then compare to original paint in a protected area of your own car (or sister car). And make sure that paint has been cut/polished. Hopefully you didn't remove all the original paint from your car.
But like all mixes with modern pigments, one needs to spray them out and then compare to original paint in a protected area of your own car (or sister car). And make sure that paint has been cut/polished. Hopefully you didn't remove all the original paint from your car.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
Try the color that is available for the 2009 production of 911s. Is is paint option Z98, Heron Grey. It is a modern color and is easy to obtain. I used PPG Envirobase High Performance. I found it to be an exact match for the original color under my dash pad and glove box on my 63 coupe (T6B). I used that color, and was much pleased. It makes sense that the factory would get a good match when reintroducing an old color. Your restorer can obtain a small sample to compare with the protected area paint you wish to match. When we put the sample on the area under the dash pad, and dried it, you could not tell which was original, and which was the sample. I am not sure if all years of production of Heron Grey are the same color from the factory. Some older model 356s seemed to match a darker shade.
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(wow, made 45 years of ownership on the 60 Cab!)
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
I've ordered and tried 2 set of colors "6207" Reihergrau, 1 from Spies Hecker and the other from Glasurit and the result is ... surprising
And now I'm lost. I don't really like both colors, one is too gray, the other too yellow
A member is sending me aPPG example so I will compare
I've also ordered the PPG here in France (not sure it will the same tone as the example he is sending me) and one other from Autocolors
I don't find the Z98
to be continued
And now I'm lost. I don't really like both colors, one is too gray, the other too yellow
A member is sending me aPPG example so I will compare
I've also ordered the PPG here in France (not sure it will the same tone as the example he is sending me) and one other from Autocolors
I don't find the Z98
to be continued
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
I tested the three colors on large metal sheet, here is the result (tge weather is bad, no sun)
Glasurit on the left, PGG in middle and SPies Hecher on the right
Nothing comparable
Glasurit on the left, PGG in middle and SPies Hecher on the right
Nothing comparable
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
For my eyes the sample on the far right is close.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
Its been a few years but yes the one on the right. The original Grey has a beige tinge to it is direct sunlight
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
The heron grey will be very different in direct sunlight vs shade vs clouds vs artificial light. Pick the best for all conditions. If i remember, my ppg had only a little black tint added, no other color. It looks to have a very slight green tinge under clouds, but under sun has no colors other than the slight grey. It goes well with the oatmeal carpet and light brown interior. I get a lot of complements.
Correction(12/29/2019): Was able to get formula for Envirobase HP EHP PPG. T400 White 4503, T422 Yellow 345, T409 Deep Black 193, T440 Red 46 for a gallon of Heron Grey for a Z98 Color for a 2009 Porsche 997, Reference POR-Z98, International. It was a great match for the under the dash color on my Heron Grey 63 Coupe.
Correction(12/29/2019): Was able to get formula for Envirobase HP EHP PPG. T400 White 4503, T422 Yellow 345, T409 Deep Black 193, T440 Red 46 for a gallon of Heron Grey for a Z98 Color for a 2009 Porsche 997, Reference POR-Z98, International. It was a great match for the under the dash color on my Heron Grey 63 Coupe.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
There was a Mini color 5-10 years ago that I thought was very close. You might look into it. The best Ruby Red I found was a 2001 Audi color, it’s on my car and looks correct.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
Painted three weeks ago. 63 Heron Grey. This matched the original color on dash where covered as close as one can get.
Reminder. View in indirect, natural light any sample for the true color. All samples should be painted using the same process from metal up to be accurate.
Reminder. View in indirect, natural light any sample for the true color. All samples should be painted using the same process from metal up to be accurate.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
And remember that our cars are noted for leaving the factory in various shades which gives some leeway in choosing the one that looks right to you.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
Thank you, all these cars are very nice and I definitely like this Heron Gray
I beleive that I will go with Spies Hecker 6207 ...
I beleive that I will go with Spies Hecker 6207 ...
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
As an addendum to this thread, I had a master match the colour on my A pillar cover.
As close to a perfect match to both the A pillar cover and the dash as I could desire.
As close to a perfect match to both the A pillar cover and the dash as I could desire.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction
Keith, thanks for this. I have a Heron Gray Roadster under restoration so this will come in handy.
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