Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

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Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

#1 Post by Brett Johnson » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:08 pm

From information I currently have the Bilstein friction type jack replaced the Vigot (also Bilstein) screw jack at some point between March and October 1955. Even if your car doesn't have a jack, the brackets are very different since the diameter of the jack is. Attached photo is of the bracket from 54205 which has the narrower spacing for the later jack. I need additional data points, if possible around this time.
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Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

#2 Post by Victor Ingram » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:11 pm

I have the narrow bracket in my cab #60890 build date 27.7.55
Friction jack. Narrow Brackets are really "offset" not centered as in Neds pictures.
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Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

#3 Post by James Davies » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:14 am

Wide: 53404, 53425, 53427, 53460, 53462, 53662

Narrow: 53694, 53768, 54067

Based on photos, most unrestored.

So this puts in May/June 1955?

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#4 Post by Spencer Harris » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:22 am

Wide bracket in 53449, May 10,1955.
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#5 Post by Brett Johnson » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:08 am

May/June 1955 sounds good -- never realized it was that late. Appreciate the input. If there are later cars, let me know -- especially Speedsters!
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Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

#6 Post by Vincent Gillespie » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:48 am

54122, finished on 13/9/55, photo done quickly so it's a a bit fuzzy, if you need a better one let me know.
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#7 Post by Dennis Molnar » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:45 pm

53765 Narrow.
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#8 Post by Steve Douglas » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:09 pm

Brett, I finally got to the warehouse and looked at Speedster 80493 and it has the narrow clips like the later ones.

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#9 Post by Donald Zingg » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:37 pm

Another way to quickly answer this question is observe the placement of the two jack storage clips in relation to the centerline of the body. In pre-A cars originally equipped with a Vigot gearhead jack the left and right jack holders are set roughly equal distance from the centerline of the trunk (see photos below).

In 1955 P-cars originally equipped with a Bilstein friction jack the right side jack holder is normally offset farther away from centerline in the trunk compared to the placement of the storage clip on the left side.
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Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

#10 Post by Ned Gorski » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:25 pm

cab 60748 Feb 14th 1955 wide vigot

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#11 Post by James Davies » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:37 pm

Wow Don, how did you figure that out? That looks like something like 1-2cm difference. :shock: 8)

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#12 Post by Donald Zingg » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:04 am

James Davies wrote:Wow Don, how did you figure that out? That looks like something like 1-2cm difference. :shock: 8)
You are a man of science. You will recall, when 'roughly' measuring an object, or some distance between two objects, the standard maximum allowable error is one inch.

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#13 Post by Mike Smith » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:09 am

53 363 - Wide Jack Clips (Unrestored in this area)
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#14 Post by Donald Zingg » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:03 pm

James Davies wrote:Wow Don, how did you figure that out? That looks like something like 1-2cm difference. :shock: 8)
Pre-A Speedster 81221 - - friction jack.
Note the location of the jack holder on the right side. It is offset away from the hood latch pedestal more than the jack holder on the left. Compare with the two photos above showing the jack holder arrangement in earlier 356 cars.
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Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

#15 Post by Donald Zingg » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:17 pm

Speedster 80913 and 81036, October 1955 - - wide clips, Vigot jack

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