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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#16 Post by Adam Wright » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:41 pm

James Learmonth wrote:What am I missing here? If we put a Tariff on products that we need or want we will continue to buy them. Maybe a new Porsche or parts for an old one. The tariff then is paid by the willing purchaser. That's us. Tell me why this is a good idea that I should support.

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Our government doesn't want German cars sold here.

http://fortune.com/2018/05/31/trump-mer ... n-car-ban/
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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#17 Post by C J Murray » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Adam Wright wrote:Our government doesn't want German cars sold here.
You are kidding, right?
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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#18 Post by Adam Wright » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:05 pm

C J Murray wrote:
Adam Wright wrote:Our government doesn't want German cars sold here.
You are kidding, right?
I'll quote the article.

"President Donald Trump is hoping to effectively ban sales of Mercedes-Benz, Audi, and other German cars, according to reports from a German magazine.

A report in WirtschaftsWoche cites unnamed diplomatic sources who say Trump told French president Emmanuel Macron he would maintain his trade policy “until no Mercedes models rolled on Fifth Avenue in New York.” The trade policy would seemingly affect any German automaker, though, putting sales of Porsche and Volkswagen (and its Audi luxury division) at risk as well as Daimler."
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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#19 Post by C J Murray » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:25 pm

I asked if YOU believed what you wrote. Do you believe that "our government" wants to cause the closing of all of the German auto trade inside the USA? Do you believe that? Why? How was the US proposal to drop all tariffs going to accomplish that?
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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#20 Post by Adam Wright » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:41 pm

C J Murray wrote:I asked if YOU believed what you wrote. Do you believe that "our government" wants to cause the closing of all of the German auto trade inside the USA? Do you believe that? Why? How was the US proposal to drop all tariffs going to accomplish that?
You're arguing with the wrong guy here, I'm quoting the article which quoted "unnamed diplomatic sources". If you believe the article our current government does not want to see German cars on American streets.

It was not an isolated article.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ars-report

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/trump-r ... he-us.html

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/trum ... an-report/
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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#21 Post by David Lawrence » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:15 am

Adam, I see that the articles you referenced above are somewhat dated.

Here are some more recent article quotes dated June 23 and 24 from the site LegalInsurrection.com and an internal link to a pay per view article in the Wall Street Journal.
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Germany’s big auto makers are now supporting the abolition of all import tariffs for cars between the European Union and the U.S.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-l ... 1529492027

The U.S. ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell, brought the proposal for a broader industry trade pact to the Trump administration on Wednesday, according to people familiar with the situation.

That would mean scrapping the EU’s 10% tax on auto imports from the U.S. and other countries and the 2.5% duty on auto imports in the U.S. As a prerequisite, the Europeans want President Donald Trump’s threat of imposing a 25% border tax on European auto imports off the table.
Over the past few weeks, Mr. Grenell has held closed-door meetings with the chiefs of all major German automotive companies, including bilateral meetings with the CEOs of Daimler AG , BMW AG and Volkswagen AG , which operate plants in the U.S. Overall, Germany’s auto makers and suppliers provide 116,500 jobs in the U.S., according to the Association of German Automotive Manufacturers.
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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#22 Post by Wes Bender » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:06 am

Any report, document or article that quotes "un-named sources" isn't worth the paper it is written on.
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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#23 Post by John Lindstrom » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:34 pm

Nowadays “named” sources are less credible than random sources. All that is really going on, is that the U.S. Banker/Wall St/Corporation complex has printed such an insane amount of money, and used it to bid up the prices of and purchase the entire worlds resources, that all the other countries have no other choice but to raise the prices of their exports. Why would they accept worthless devalued dollars and starve their own people of resources? Of course the entire world has to raise their export prices substantially to simply survive. So here we experience our currency being hyper-devalued as mind-wrenching inflation, way higher prices. In order that people don’t wake up to this, and get furious when they realize that all their hard earned money won’t afford them anything, the finger will be pointed at an imaginary, non-existent “trade war”. This way the citizen-slaves will not unite and overthrow their captors, and establish self-government, like they have time and time again through history. Moral of the story? Ignore the fake-news, hold on to your assets that have proven themselves to be valuable over time.

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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#24 Post by neilbardsley » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:42 am

John Lindstrom wrote:Nowadays “named” sources are less credible than random sources. All that is really going on, is that the U.S. Banker/Wall St/Corporation complex has printed such an insane amount of money, and used it to bid up the prices of and purchase the entire worlds resources, that all the other countries have no other choice but to raise the prices of their exports. Why would they accept worthless devalued dollars and starve their own people of resources? Of course the entire world has to raise their export prices substantially to simply survive. So here we experience our currency being hyper-devalued as mind-wrenching inflation, way higher prices. In order that people don’t wake up to this, and get furious when they realize that all their hard earned money won’t afford them anything, the finger will be pointed at an imaginary, non-existent “trade war”. This way the citizen-slaves will not unite and overthrow their captors, and establish self-government, like they have time and time again through history. Moral of the story? Ignore the fake-news, hold on to your assets that have proven themselves to be valuable over time.
Please name a single "U.S. Banker/Wall St/Corporation complex" that prints money?

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Re: OT Perhaps - Tariffs and Porsche

#25 Post by John Lindstrom » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:32 am

Neil, a “Single” U.S. Banker/Wall St/Corporation complex is an oxymoron don’t you think?

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