Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#16 Post by Martin Benade » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:54 pm

With no part number visible, are you sure those are not 1969 BMW 2002 air cleaner rubber mounts, repurposed for this unknown bracket?

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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#17 Post by C J Murray » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:15 pm

Jim Liberty wrote:Don't throw it away !!! Maybe it will fit my '53 Morgan. ..................Jim.
It does look English, rusty and too many fasteners.
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#18 Post by Eric Wills » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:47 pm

C J Murray wrote:
Jim Liberty wrote:Don't throw it away !!! Maybe it will fit my '53 Morgan. ..................Jim.
It does look English, rusty and too many fasteners.

It was found in a pile of wood dust, so.......
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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#19 Post by Dick Weiss » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:50 pm

Otherwise, re-cycle it & get a few cents.

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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#20 Post by Mike DeJonge » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:27 am

It is a fuel pump bracket for a 69-70 911. There were two versions. fits in the cavity where the steering rack is, the hump just behind the fuel tank. the melted rubber is from the anti vibration mounts which typically fail quite often
We would be very much interested in this part so we could reproduce. Very difficult to find a decent one which can be scanned.
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#21 Post by Mike DeJonge » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:31 am

drawing from original catalog
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pump bracket.pdf
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#22 Post by Mike DeJonge » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:38 am

the locating pin on the bracket actually fits into a depression on the steering rack, so it can be located properly, just like the locating pin on the steering boxes from the 356 cars
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#23 Post by Mike Wilson » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:06 pm

Unreal! Good eye, Mike! I had a feeling it held a canister of some sort but had no clue it was for a Porsche. Another part saved and will be reproduced.

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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#24 Post by Eric Wills » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:30 pm

Mike,

Are you sure? Very similar, but not the same. I see 1 clamp and 1 rubber mount on the .pdf This old part has 2 of each. Thread continues until moderators flush it, where it probably belongs. If not identified by Hershey in April, I can bring it there.

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#25 Post by Eric Wills » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:33 pm

One more detail, the clamps with welded nuts on the clamps are 14mm ATF. Bolts 13mm. Very 1965ish.
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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#26 Post by Jim Breazeale » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:35 pm

Eric Wills wrote:One more detail, the clamps with welded nuts are 14mm ATF. Bolts 13mm. Very 1965ish.
The first time I saw it I thought is was a fuel pump bracket but it just didn't look right to me so I didn't say anything. Close but no cigar.

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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#27 Post by Eric Wills » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:39 pm

Was hoping you would chime in, Jim. First thing we thought, too. But nobody seems to know what this is. Yet.
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#28 Post by Mike DeJonge » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:32 am

There is no doubt in my mind that it is the fuel pump bracket for an early 911. As I said there are 2 versions. in the parts diagram from the manual, it looks like a cast iron part, but in actuality it is a stamped part. Porsche was very inconsistent with the fuel pump brackets in these years. 1965-68 fuel pump was located in engine bay, 1969-71 the pump was located in the smugglers box and under the smugglers box and in 1973 a different bracket was located in the rear, inboard of the rear torsion tube mount.You can look in early parts manuals to confirm.
part numbers are:
901 356 501 00
901 356 053 00
901 356 505 00
901 356 505 01
901 356 506 00
999 512 130 02
999 512 164 02
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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#29 Post by Eric Wills » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:24 pm

Mike DeJonge wrote:There is no doubt in my mind that it is the fuel pump bracket for an early 911. As I said there are 2 versions. in the parts diagram from the manual, it looks like a cast iron part, but in actuality it is a stamped part. Porsche was very inconsistent with the fuel pump brackets in these years. 1965-68 fuel pump was located in engine bay, 1969-71 the pump was located in the smugglers box and under the smugglers box and in 1973 a different bracket was located in the rear, inboard of the rear torsion tube mount.You can look in early parts manuals to confirm.
part numbers are:
901 356 501 00
901 356 053 00
901 356 505 00
901 356 505 01
901 356 506 00
999 512 130 02
999 512 164 02
Still don't think it is a 911 fuel pump bracket. Replaced a 1970 S fuel pump not very long ago and parts looked just like the .pdf parts manual page you attached. Have a few 911s in the shop now, so understand the location mounting differences. Were fuel pumps on early 911 ever mounted from the factory, in or under the smuggler's box, or on the steering rack as you stated? I'm not trying to argue, I enjoy learning new details about our old cars.

That said, we can discuss the logistics of you scanning the part if you really want to. What part number and application would you sell the reproduced part as fitting?
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Re: Part ID--What is this bracket/clamp for?

#30 Post by Jim Breazeale » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:43 pm

Eric Wills wrote:
Mike DeJonge wrote:There is no doubt in my mind that it is the fuel pump bracket for an early 911. As I said there are 2 versions. in the parts diagram from the manual, it looks like a cast iron part, but in actuality it is a stamped part. Porsche was very inconsistent with the fuel pump brackets in these years. 1965-68 fuel pump was located in engine bay, 1969-71 the pump was located in the smugglers box and under the smugglers box and in 1973 a different bracket was located in the rear, inboard of the rear torsion tube mount.You can look in early parts manuals to confirm.
part numbers are:
901 356 501 00
901 356 053 00
901 356 505 00
901 356 505 01
901 356 506 00
999 512 130 02
999 512 164 02
Still don't think it is a 911 fuel pump bracket. Replaced a 1970 S fuel pump not very long ago and parts looked just like the .pdf parts manual page you attached. Have a few 911s in the shop now, so understand the location mounting differences. Were fuel pumps on early 911 ever mounted from the factory, in or under the smuggler's box, or on the steering rack as you stated? I'm not trying to argue, I enjoy learning new details about our old cars.

That said, we can discuss the logistics of you scanning the part if you really want to. What part number and application would you sell the reproduced part as fitting?
Fuel pumps were mounted at the steering gear in 69 and 70. They were moved to the LR in 71 and the bracket also served as the LR sway bar bushing mount.

Regards

Jim
PS: I still agree with you that your contraption is not a 69/70 a fuel pump mount
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