Is T-2 red vinyl the same color as T-5?

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Is T-2 red vinyl the same color as T-5?

#1 Post by Thomas Frisardi »

I have an old book entitled, "Colour Code and Material Sample." The book covers 356B, 356C, and early 911s and 912s. Is the sample for 356B, 356C and pre-A series 911s and 912s shown on the page below correct for T-2 cars as well? The other two photos show the front pages of the sample book.

How do I get the photos to post in the proper orientation?
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If a member opens your post in this thread and then left clicks on a photo it should then open that photo in the proper orientation and slightly magnified.
At least that works for me when using Firefox.

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Thomas Frisardi wrote:I have an old book entitled, "Colour Code and Material Sample." The book covers 356B, 356C, and early 911s and 912s. Is the sample for 356B, 356C and pre-A series 911s and 912s shown on the page below correct for T-2 cars as well? The other two photos show the front pages of the sample book.

How do I get the photos to post in the proper orientation?
Google Chrome automatically rotates them 90 degrees to the right when I look at them.
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#4 Post by Thomas Frisardi »

Thank you, both. I tried it, and it works.

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Thomas

I saw a copy of this volume for sale in the mid west a year or so ago. Is this that copy? There can not be many copies that survive today, please take good care of it.
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#6 Post by Brad Ripley »

Here below are those pages right side up. That book was done about T-6 times. For earlier cars they did a sales-type book --- See Charlie White's book for photos of those.
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#7 Post by Thomas Frisardi »

Brad, Do you know whether the deeper red in the book is correct for T-2 cars?

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As for T-2 cars, there was only one factory book with materials samples which was really for dealer salesmen. Here is a photo of a page from that book.
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Re: Is T-2 red vinyl the same color as T-5?

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I believe T2 and 5 are the same. The T1 are a whole different ball game
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Re: Is T-2 red vinyl the same color as T-5?

#10 Post by Brad Ripley »

I don't have a T-5 book. However, I do have a T-6 book ... the red color appears to be the same as the A (photo above) but with slightly more texture in the T-6 sample.

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#11 Post by Thomas Frisardi »

Brad, is it your understanding that the book shown in my post is for T-6 cars and early 911s only? My book is not dated, as far as I can tell. It covers 911 and 912 models through the B series. There is no distinction made between T-5 and T-6 cars.

I had Color Plus mix a dye to match the red vinyl sample shown for 356B and C in the book, and used the dye on some sections of original vinyl in my 1959 T-2. It appeared to match very well, actually perfectly to my eye, but Joanne at Color Plus told me that she could "only" get it to 99.31% accuracy.

Based on my single anecdote, I would say that the original T-2 red vinyl is the same color as shown for T-6, and maybe T-5, in the sample book. The earliest 911s and 912s probably used the same red, but Porsche switched to a lighter red with the A series.

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It is my understanding that T-6 B black vinyl is different than C black vinyl. Is that true?

What is the taxonomy of black vinyl through the years?
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#13 Post by Thomas Frisardi »

Edwin, here is the page of black vinyl samples in my book. As you can see, there is a 356C specific black vinyl. The sample shown for B and C models is perforated, but it also appears to have a different grain.

If you click on the image, it will open in the correct orientation.
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