Door Handle for a Sept. 56. Square or Crossover?

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Trevor Gates
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Re: Door Handle for a Sept. 56. Square or Crossover?

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I've got some additional pics that I thought people might find interesting.
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
From Left to Right. 1)Early square 2)crossover square, 3)T2,T5,T6
Difference in lock cylinder, notice the taper on the T2/T5/T6.
Difference in lock cylinder, notice the taper on the T2/T5/T6.
Difference in lock cylinder, notice the taper on the T2/T5/T6.
Difference in lock cylinder, notice the taper on the T2/T5/T6.
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Re: Door Handle for a Sept. 56. Square or Crossover?

#17 Post by James Davies »

Great photos Trevor. Thanks!

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Re: Door Handle for a Sept. 56. Square or Crossover?

#18 Post by Dennis ODonnell »

"... and door lock key numbers.... to get a closer data point?"

A curve ball for Brad's list: Early '57 T1 A; lock # is 5462, original locks per the original owner (square handles). Maybe they just pulled them out of a box at random when fitting them to the handles? Bottom of the barrel? The car was built with a mix of other "leftovers" and contemporary parts; early mirror but padded sunvisors etc.

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Re: Door Handle for a Sept. 56. Square or Crossover?

#19 Post by Rick Albro »

Dennis, If you have an early 57 T1 with lock number 5462 that would absolutely fit into Brads table you did not mention what your chassis number is? The German car codes book that I have for early Porsche locks indicate that there were several series of codes used in this time frame and I have observed a few series that were not listed as being for Porsche. There are many possible explanations for this several German cars of the era are listed as using the same key blanks and having overlapping code numbering. It is very possible that some of these other cars may have also used the same key cylinder and were replaced at some time. I show the following sequences for lock code numbering: 926-975, 1201-1266, 5406-5552, 7500-7569,5350-5430, 5436-5494, 64111-64130. Notice that these are not in sequential order there are several other possible numbering series listed in the code book. If your car was built before May or June of 57 then your 5462 code certainly falls within the expected sequences. Also notice that 5462 falls within two different sequences of lock codes. These are four gate locks and there are only so many variations possible some of them are duplicated ...many of them are duplicated some of the codes lead to the same key cuts so even with different codes the keys could be the same. How many possibilities are there for four different gates? ...or maybe we really shouldn't ask this question?

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Re: Door Handle for a Sept. 56. Square or Crossover?

#20 Post by Dennis ODonnell »

"that would absolutely fit into Brads table "

Nope. It fits your sequence, not Brad's table, Rick. Brad's table would show it as a '55. Yours is more thorough. Thanks for the detail.

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#21 Post by Roy Smalley »

Brad: Thanks for sharing........
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Re: Door Handle for a Sept. 56. Square or Crossover?

#22 Post by Brad Ripley »

New partial addition to this list in bold -- sorry I don't have the Kardex on this car but only the invoice to the customer dated 26 March 1957.
12-Dec-55 D066 5438.00
11-Oct-56 F115 7533.00
14-Nov-56 F094 7595.00
11-Jan-57 F066 7557.00
15-Jan-57 F112 7554.00
17-Jan-57 F073 7531.00
28-Jan-57 F073 7562.00
25-Feb-57 F077 7555.00
3-Apr-57 F079 64118.00
? 26-Mar-57 F104 64119
26-Apr-57 F122 64125.00
6-May-57 F080 64114.00
19-Jul-57 F100 K182
13-Dec-57 F082 K198
22-Apr-58 K169 K169
10-Jan-59 K100 K100
10-Jan-59 K100 K100
13-Jan-59 K119 K119
27-Jan-59 K115 K115
25-Mar-59 K190 K190
31-Mar-59 K127 K127
8-May-59 K179 K179
1-Jan-62 K388 K388
14-Mar-62 K325 K325
16-Mar-62 K194 K194 T-6 RDSTR
26-Mar-62 K167 K167 T-6 RDSTR
27-Mar-62 K328 K328
29-Mar-62 K156 K156 T-6 RDSTR
11-May-62 K399 K399
9-Jul-62 K357 K357
2-Nov-62 K327 K327
8-Nov-62 K329 K329
11-Dec-62 K354 K354
21-Dec-62 K372 K372
28-Mar-63 K322 K322


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