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Re: Porsche VS VW build quality

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:50 pm
by Martin Benade
I like the low headlight Ghias, I never see them.

Re: Porsche VS VW build quality

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:33 am
by David Baugh
As I recall, the rear ends got cut off a lot of Ghias, as they were turned into sand buggies and street rods.

Re: Porsche VS VW build quality

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:05 pm
by Emil Wojcik
I had a '63 KG back in the early '80s. As you can tell from these photos, I was just a kid who wished he could have afforded a Porsche. It's embarrassing to admit I did this to that poor Ghia back then, but such are the follies of youth.

Re: Porsche VS VW build quality

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:42 pm
by Larry Brooks
Interesting timing for this thread.

A friend and I just bought a couple 914's from an estate. We went to look at the 914-6 we had heard about and saw another 914 under a car cover. It is a very low miles, original paint survivor that we just sold on eBay. We spent a month doing a deep clean of the 914-4 including dropping the engine/transaxle, etc. Now we are following the same procedure on the 914-6. Definitely the most time I have ever spent tinkering on 914's, spending the last 45 years on 356, 911 & 912 models instead. I have noticed some distinct differences and would certainly consider them VW's with a few Porsche bits.

The most obvious thing that you quickly notice is the extremely large gaps between all of the components. I think that sums up the build philosophy compared to Porsche. I am impressed with the quality of almost all of the components, but it is quite obvious that they were geared toward quick, mass production taking many shortcuts to get there. That said the fit and finish is good, especially compared to other marques from that era. They do somethings that I find irksome too: lug bolts instead of lug nuts (what a PIA!), cumbersome e-brake design, putting the computer under the battery, nearly impossible to change rear brake hoses without dropping the engine, etc.

Re: Porsche VS VW build quality

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:53 pm
by David Jones
Larry, did you drive it before you sold it? That would make you forgive a lot of complaints about the 914. I drove the piss out of mine for 12 years until I traded it in plus a KG for my cabrio with salvage title. I still miss that car and as regards the lug bolts my updated version of the 914, my boxster has lug bolts as well though my tool kit does come with a guide to get the wheel back on.

Re: Porsche VS VW build quality

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:23 pm
by Larry Brooks
[quote="David Jones"]Larry, did you drive it before you sold it? That would make you forgive a lot of complaints about the 914.

I didn't drive this one because it wasn't a priority for me since I have driven them in the past. I ended up with a 1974 914LE Bumblebee a few years ago when a friend changed his mind after I put a deposit on the car for him. I committed to the seller I would buy so I had to complete the deal. It was also a low mileage car and like all LE's had the 2L engine. It was fun to drive, but reminded me a lot more of driving my VW Thing than a 356 or 911 - maybe it's just me. They go around corners, but they just don't feel like a Porsche to me. I'm curious to see how the 914-6 feels. It has a 1971 911S engine built to a 2.5L by Dick Elverud 5000 miles ago. I know it will be quick and it is a priority for me to drive it since I've never driven a 914-6. :D

Re: Porsche VS VW build quality

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:10 pm
by Adam Wright
Larry Brooks wrote:
David Jones wrote:Larry, did you drive it before you sold it? That would make you forgive a lot of complaints about the 914.

I didn't drive this one because it wasn't a priority for me since I have driven them in the past. I ended up with a 1974 914LE Bumblebee a few years ago when a friend changed his mind after I put a deposit on the car for him. I committed to the seller I would buy so I had to complete the deal. It was also a low mileage car and like all LE's had the 2L engine. It was fun to drive, but reminded me a lot more of driving my VW Thing than a 356 or 911 - maybe it's just me. They go around corners, but they just don't feel like a Porsche to me. I'm curious to see how the 914-6 feels. It has a 1971 911S engine built to a 2.5L by Dick Elverud 5000 miles ago. I know it will quick and it is a priority for me to drive it. :D
Personally I've driven both and at autocross I much prefer the 914, it seems to have a lower center of gravity and much more power. Don't get me wrong, I love driving a 356, but I can't turn anywhere near the same times with the 356 as I can with the 914. Last time out I was pulling the same times as the 911 and Boxsters, and I won my class!