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Michael Eker · #1 Post by **Michael Eker** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:16 pm

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Kevin Wiggins · #2 Post by **Kevin Wiggins** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:25 pm

Dannenhauer and Strauss or "D&S".

Coachbuilt car based on VW from early 50's.

Kevin Wiggins · #3 Post by **Kevin Wiggins** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:28 pm

Few more. Super super rare car.

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Michael Cass · #4 Post by **Michael Cass** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:34 am

Does anyone know what one of these is worth?

Peter Bosch · #5 Post by **Peter Bosch** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:47 am

A wreck of one of these was sold last week here in Belgium for over 50.000 euros. Model 1952.

Kevin Wiggins · #6 Post by **Kevin Wiggins** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:57 am

The red one above was sold (quickly) this spring for about $250k.

Michael Cass · #7 Post by **Michael Cass** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:19 pm

Bloody Hell

! How is one of those better than a speedster?

Emil Wojcik · #8 Post by **Emil Wojcik** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:40 pm

How is one of those better than a speedster?

I assume you mean "more expensive than a Speedster". In that case it's very simple: Rarity. No one said it was better, though I'm sure others may believe it is.

Kevin Wiggins · #9 Post by **Kevin Wiggins** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:57 pm

Emil Wojcik wrote:
How is one of those better than a speedster?
I assume you mean "more expensive than a Speedster". In that case it's very simple: Rarity. No one said it was better, though I'm sure others may believe it is.

Considerably rarer. I saw that red one in person and I can tell you, that in my opinion, it is one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen.

Loaded with an Okrasa motor so not that far off from a Normal from the same era.

Michael Cass · #10 Post by **Michael Cass** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:16 am

Yes I know it is rarer than a speedster but it is no rarer than a pre A speedster and being non unitary construction would definately not handle better than a speedster although it may go as well as a normal in a straight line with that engine in it.

I agree that they are a beautiful car as I have seen one here in Australia about 5 years ago at the 356 parade and had never seen one before. I just did not think that they would be worth soooooo much. I guess exclusivity has a price but for that sort of price I would rather have a pre A speedster or split screen cab any day and have change left over for a nice coupe.

Kevin Wiggins · #11 Post by **Kevin Wiggins** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:21 pm

Michael Cass wrote:Yes I know it is rarer than a speedster but it is no rarer than a pre A speedster

I saw two Pre A speedsters just today at a local all german car show. I looked all around, but no D&S's I'm afraid

I suspect there are less than 15 D&S's in the world. How many Pre A speedsters are around?

Not really fair to speculate regarding how they may or may not handle considering nobody here has likely driven one.

Still a beauty of a car.

JOEL JENSEN · #12 Post by **JOEL JENSEN** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:04 pm

A more equitable comparison to 356's would be America Roadsters, much closer in numbers produced and also a special coachbuilt.

Michael Cass · #13 Post by **Michael Cass** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:03 am

Not really fair to speculate regarding how they may or may not handle considering nobody here has likely driven one./quote]

Well, it is vw underneath so it would drive like an open VW and an early one at that. And we all know that vw's as good and charming as they are do not handle like a Porsche. Don't get me wrong I love VW's and own a few myself and love the look of these D&S cars but seriously, 250 large for a VW convertible? I am still staggered no matter how rare they are.

Pat Daily · #14 Post by **Pat Daily** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:23 am

Staggering prices--sort of like $3000 tool kits and $550 pot metal door handles. Honestly, the prices for some of this stuff is incredible and hard to believe.

Kevin Wiggins · #15 Post by **Kevin Wiggins** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:45 pm

Michael Cass wrote:Well, it is vw underneath so it would drive like an open VW and an early one at that.

Yeah, but so were very early Porsches......

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