20 year slumber project - what to do first?

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Jules Dielen
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20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#1 Post by Jules Dielen » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:53 pm

Hypothetical project.

356C has been sitting in someone's garage for 20 years. Has not been started. Engine turns by hand. What would you do if you wanted to make it a safely running and driving car? I came up with the following:

- new battery
- redo brakes: New master cylinder, new brake hoses, rebuild calipers
- fuel system: remove and clean/flush/coat or replace fuel tank, replace sender, rebuild fuel pet cock and fuel pump, replace all fuel hoses, clean carbs with new seals, possibly rebuild throttle bodies (zenith carbs)
- replace steering coupler, tie rod ends, 4 new tires possibly 4 new shocks.
- change engine oil/filter, service, potential reseal looming? Do i open it just in case?
- change transmission fluid, new axle boots, replace wheel bearings/ seals?
- chase electrical quirks, rebuild gauges?

Potential for 8-10k in costs to get is up to snuff assuming the engine is healthy? Does that seem reasonable or is there anything big i am missing?
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Re: 20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#2 Post by Doug McDonnell » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:42 pm

Fuel sender might very well be fine just cleaned. Clean fuse box and test would be one of the things I would do just to have that off the list of possible electrical problems.
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Re: 20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#3 Post by Hugo Karasawa » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:22 pm

Compression test and leak down test.

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Re: 20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#4 Post by Jules Dielen » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:32 pm

Hugo Karasawa wrote:Compression test and leak down test.

My thinking was to first get it running, drive a few hundred miles and then evaluate the engine. I don't know if a compression test is any good after sitting 20 years. Things may loosen up again after some driving?
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Re: 20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#5 Post by Tony Proasi » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:05 pm

I would put a battery in it run a fuel line off the pump to some fresh gas, clean the points and see what happens. Of course check the oil first but I like to hear them run before I worry about the rest. Just fired this old girl up she hadnt run since 1980.
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Re: 20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#6 Post by Dick Weiss » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:35 pm

Sitting for 20 + years won't guarantee no rust on the cylinders, crank & cam shafts--even the valve assemblies & oil pump! Some early photos were shown in recent 'talk listings' & turning the engine by hand won't move any oil to those parts!!
Then there's the carbs, fuel & brake lines; etc., shocks, clutch, & all parts which are 'grease lubed', & the transmission!!!

If the engine is started w/o some of the above work involved, you could increase damage resulting w/higher costs; Thus, "what's in your wallet?"

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Re: 20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#7 Post by Harlan Halsey » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:34 am

I would change all the fluids and grease the wheel bearings and all grease fittings, wiggle all electrical connections and move the fuses. I would disassemble the engine and check the rod bearings. If the case is not clean inside, then I would split it too to clean it up. Upon reassembly, I would use a pre-oiler, spinning the engine without plugs to get oil pressure before doing the usual tune up.

I did this with the last Porsche we bought, a running 912, which I thought needed only a 2nd gears synchro, and found that the #3 rod bearing was through to the copper. Apparently that journal had been welded, necessitating a new crank. But had we continued to run it, it would shortly have necessitated a lot more. I rebuilt the engine, replaced the synchro s, my daughter took it to drivers school, ran a few vintage races, and we have enjoyed it ever since.

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Re: 20 year slumber project - what to do first?

#8 Post by Martin Bruechle » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:45 pm

I'd get a scope and look in the plug holes. They have cheap ones now that work off a smart phone.
Why fire it up if there is rust in there ? Why even crank it over ?

Here is a bore scope with light for under $8 for your smart phone

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