Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
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Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Dear Members,
In hoping to not bother you, I'm glad to present my restauration project.
The car has been an abandoned restauration since years, the last owner (by the title) was Bill Gaszynski (Oregon) who bought the car from a formal member of the Registry (William Ceriale) which confirmed that the selling was done around 1998 to him in driving condition, and since then probably used and then initially restored. I'm keen to thanks William for his kindly answering in my recent contact request in finding, during the enrolling into the Registry, his reference as previous owner by the car VIN here recorded.
The car was acquired and imported in Italy by (well-known by the most of you) Reinhold Plank, from which I bought it some months ago. Another thank to him for his professionality that granted to me a trouble-free acquisition (in a time of speculation on the model is for sure a valuable point to be arisen), and last but not least to the substantial support by the Italian 356 expert (and I supposing not only) Andrea Coriani, who's established the link between all of us.
Who had been the first owner of the USA car, I don't know, yet.
I've request the Reutter certificate, and I hope to get it soon in order to start a proper restauration back to the originality.
Must be pointed out that the car is almost completed, even if in some sort of random parts that comes from other vehicles, but have matching numbers of engine and transmission and both are in recent restored state (whatever it does mean), we will inspect it very soon, I have a video in which the engine runs (I may post it, if possible, here).
Almost all the parts are already taken apart from the car by the previous attempt of restauration and some were also depredated in the past, as you can see form some photos.
My first problem is how to reassembly correctly all details, considering that is impossible to follow the rule number zero… The first of all rules: remove, take photos and catalogue all parts details when are taken apart.
I so joined the Registry in the hope to have in future some (!) helps without stress too much you and the foremost mentioned friends.
The car is nice, IMHO, having SC engine, a beautiful and rare Bali blue colour and red leather as per COA.
Additionally, has the electrical pump for windshield (still present) and an electrical sunroof.
2 instruments paired on the dashboard, clock and thermometer (inside/outside) indicate a not common - on formal ordering at factory - combination.
It should also have a sunroof windstop that had been lost.
And ventilated chromed wheels.
My aim is to have an elegant car, for going with my family to populate some EU meetings, we all like such of events.
We have also another vintage car, since 10 years, but we definitively need a more reliable vehicle for medium and long range traveling.
So far, I bought the complete sets of Catalog of Spare Parts and Supplements and Workshop Manual. Eventually, I bought it from Bill Romano, that usually is selling the "consolidated" electronic version; well, I questioned to help me to buy one original and he sold so his original pristine personal copy. A would say, a very good start! Thanks Bill, great Registry member since long time, I suppose.
And I ordered recently the complete set of videos by the Maestro, found in the Classified ads.
Ciao, Mau
In hoping to not bother you, I'm glad to present my restauration project.
The car has been an abandoned restauration since years, the last owner (by the title) was Bill Gaszynski (Oregon) who bought the car from a formal member of the Registry (William Ceriale) which confirmed that the selling was done around 1998 to him in driving condition, and since then probably used and then initially restored. I'm keen to thanks William for his kindly answering in my recent contact request in finding, during the enrolling into the Registry, his reference as previous owner by the car VIN here recorded.
The car was acquired and imported in Italy by (well-known by the most of you) Reinhold Plank, from which I bought it some months ago. Another thank to him for his professionality that granted to me a trouble-free acquisition (in a time of speculation on the model is for sure a valuable point to be arisen), and last but not least to the substantial support by the Italian 356 expert (and I supposing not only) Andrea Coriani, who's established the link between all of us.
Who had been the first owner of the USA car, I don't know, yet.
I've request the Reutter certificate, and I hope to get it soon in order to start a proper restauration back to the originality.
Must be pointed out that the car is almost completed, even if in some sort of random parts that comes from other vehicles, but have matching numbers of engine and transmission and both are in recent restored state (whatever it does mean), we will inspect it very soon, I have a video in which the engine runs (I may post it, if possible, here).
Almost all the parts are already taken apart from the car by the previous attempt of restauration and some were also depredated in the past, as you can see form some photos.
My first problem is how to reassembly correctly all details, considering that is impossible to follow the rule number zero… The first of all rules: remove, take photos and catalogue all parts details when are taken apart.
I so joined the Registry in the hope to have in future some (!) helps without stress too much you and the foremost mentioned friends.
The car is nice, IMHO, having SC engine, a beautiful and rare Bali blue colour and red leather as per COA.
Additionally, has the electrical pump for windshield (still present) and an electrical sunroof.
2 instruments paired on the dashboard, clock and thermometer (inside/outside) indicate a not common - on formal ordering at factory - combination.
It should also have a sunroof windstop that had been lost.
And ventilated chromed wheels.
My aim is to have an elegant car, for going with my family to populate some EU meetings, we all like such of events.
We have also another vintage car, since 10 years, but we definitively need a more reliable vehicle for medium and long range traveling.
So far, I bought the complete sets of Catalog of Spare Parts and Supplements and Workshop Manual. Eventually, I bought it from Bill Romano, that usually is selling the "consolidated" electronic version; well, I questioned to help me to buy one original and he sold so his original pristine personal copy. A would say, a very good start! Thanks Bill, great Registry member since long time, I suppose.
And I ordered recently the complete set of videos by the Maestro, found in the Classified ads.
Ciao, Mau
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Re: Murizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Buon Natale Maurizio. You have a very highly optioned car which was probably special ordered from the factory based on options. Good luck on your restoration. Io abbito in Italia 2 anni e mezzo.
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Re: Murizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Looks like you have all the parts that you need but you don't need a 'wind stop' for the sunroof, they didn't have one. Love those two gauges on the dash center. Great car that should keep you busy well into 2018. Happy New Year!
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Ciao Doug, that's coincidence! If you like, write me in email about that.
Thanks Tom!
Question, is it safe to post the COA here with all numbers?
Thanks Tom!
Question, is it safe to post the COA here with all numbers?
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
I know of a Bali Blue SC here in Michigan with an inside/outside temp gauge. Not a sunroof but is a European heater car. Gauge is in a different location.
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Doug, I see that clock, faulty too!
There are some previous talks at which I've looked:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44459&p=293881&hili ... er#p293881
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31961&p=174917&hil ... de#p174917
It seems by the reported accessory catalog (?) that the double combination were available only if ordered 4 weeks in advance before the car left the factory, otherwise I think the clock were usually placed likes in your photo, even at factory.
I suppose that, if ordered after the 4 weeks, maybe the car body were already populated by instruments and cables, not letting so practical to apply it nearby the others; instead were always possible (even at dealers) to install it in the other position, nearby the glove box.
There are some previous talks at which I've looked:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44459&p=293881&hili ... er#p293881
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31961&p=174917&hil ... de#p174917
It seems by the reported accessory catalog (?) that the double combination were available only if ordered 4 weeks in advance before the car left the factory, otherwise I think the clock were usually placed likes in your photo, even at factory.
I suppose that, if ordered after the 4 weeks, maybe the car body were already populated by instruments and cables, not letting so practical to apply it nearby the others; instead were always possible (even at dealers) to install it in the other position, nearby the glove box.
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Engine and gearbox removed. Here some photos with the "numbers". Are these numbers pristine for you experts? Happy new year!
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
I see the rare electric windshield washer listed for your car in the Vindb. Very rare.
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Yes Doug, it is there. Complete and I hope still in reasonable working condition, my intent is to post more on this in a separate thread as soon as I have the time.
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
The engine assembly number, 114321 does not make sense, and there should be an engine type number on the right side of the case, for instance,
616/16 in this example.
616/16 in this example.
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Check it again Vic. 114721 would appear to be a 912 engine Assembly Number. Right at about the break between 616/39 and 616/40 engines. Has an SC third piece.
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Re: Maurizio's project (Italy): 356 SC '63
Dears, what it does mean? Possible problem?
The COA is report the engine and gearbox numbers as matching, if this information helps you in clarify the numbers.
The COA is report the engine and gearbox numbers as matching, if this information helps you in clarify the numbers.
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It means that the original engine has been replaced with the engine out of a 912. That is what the assembly number tells us. When the engine was put together, the original third piece was put on it, thus matching the number on the COA.
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