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Winter Outlaw Project

#1 Post by Doug McDonnell » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:21 pm

OK So pretending I am young and still able to get up from under the car I bought a project Outlaw for the winter. Drove well but with a VERY hard ride. I was told a previous owner was a racer and this was his street car and bushings had been changed to harder. Got it home and tires were 24 years old and figured that was a lot of the hard riding. So after a 5 mile drive on the old tires I decided that 1st up was new tires. So on the jack stands it goes and all 4 minilites removed. Off to Tirerack for new tires.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#2 Post by Doug McDonnell » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:36 pm

Front sway bar removed to replace the bushings. Unusual to say the least I found what appear to be solid PVC tubing, bisected and held on the bar for mounting with black friction tape. The usual sway bar positioning clip was present as well as a screw clamp-I guess to make sure the bisected PVC pipe stayed in place. 24 year old tires, solid sway bar bushings. It is going to be interesting what else I find in the suspension.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#3 Post by Doug McDonnell » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:46 pm

Pan looks good and solid. I was told it was replaced in the late 70s and garaged and not driven winters since. It was Detroit area car except for the last 8 years and 4K miles when it lived in Pennsylvania.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#4 Post by Dan Kalinski » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:03 pm

Cool Car! Enjoy!

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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#5 Post by C J Murray » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:39 pm

Looks good Doug. Maybe it has Konis set real hard?
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#6 Post by Doug McDonnell » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:51 pm

After I paint the hardware I am going to reinstall the bar with new bushings and put the new tires on and try a drive to evaluate the difference. Peeling the onion CJ. No Konis. Shocks are KYB which some refer to as Kill Your Back.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#7 Post by John Standish » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:09 am

First Minilites I've seen on a 356. Love Minilites!

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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#8 Post by Adam Wright » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:54 am

John Standish wrote:First Minilites I've seen on a 356. Love Minilites!
I think Mini-Lites were big in the 70s.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#9 Post by Doug McDonnell » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:07 am

Owner who hated Dolphin grey and 1st painted it red bought the Minilites as part of a wheel/tire package from Tirerack so would have been somewhere between 79-84 as he sold the car in 84.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#10 Post by Doug McDonnell » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:18 am

Car has White KYB shocks which from my reading means they are the old gas adjust shocks which are hard riding. I think I will just get new Boge shocks and be done with it unless someone advises otherwise. I have Bilstein's on my other 356 and like them but after reading multiple threads it sounds like the Boge are the best bang for the buck if not using modern KYB. I talked to the old 356 racer who owner this as his street car for 24 years. It has solid Teflon rear torsion bar bushings so I know when I make it to the rear of the car I will be changing those back to stock. Good thing I am only paying myself 2 cents/hr so Labor charges will be decent. I would hate to think what this work would be costing at a shop. No wonder the last owner didn't do any of this since he didn't do any work himself. It helps that I grew up with a dad who was a mechanic and that this is my 4th 356.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#11 Post by C J Murray » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:34 pm

I became aware of Minilites in the very early '70s when 2 friends put them on their lowered 240Zs. Other than some exotic Italian wheels there is no wheel that looks better or is more functional. Penske and many other racers used them and they were a quality product which is rare in the aftermarket wheel world. There are many nearly correct copies available but you need to be cautious about the quality. I would like a set of vintage Minilite 15x6 Porsche wheels for the Devin racer but I will probably have to settle for replicas.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#12 Post by Doug McDonnell » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:36 pm

Mine are 6.5x15 and "England" is on the rim so the real deal.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#13 Post by C J Murray » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:55 pm

Doug McDonnell wrote:Mine are 6.5x15 and "England" is on the rim so the real deal.
You can tell they are original by the shape of the hub area which has a raised outer circle.

I thought you must have shock issues. Boge shocks are great. They feel perfect on my '59 sunroof. My other cars have Konis that are set very soft and they work well too. They are especially good if you want to make the car ride to your taste or if you want to use the shocks to set the front to rear handling balance.
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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#14 Post by EricMcKinley » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:26 pm

Doug,

Well bought.

However those front Nerf bars look terrible, you should take those off and place them on the classifieds!

You may get lucky!LOL

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Re: Winter Outlaw Project

#15 Post by Doug McDonnell » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:27 pm

If I had both bumpers I would send them off to you Eric but alas I only have a rear bumper for the car.
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