'60 Cab project

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Re: '60 Cab project

#151 Post by jim nelson » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:43 pm

It's getting there, Cliff, bunches of little adjustments to make, still has no brake fluid (I'll bet that's on Monday's to-do list), have to put the windows back in, the seals on the door openings, the rubber and the aluminum strips that go around the top, the windshield, the door and window handles, a radio, speakers.....yada, yada yada....
Still got a ways to go.

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#152 Post by jim nelson » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:48 pm

So the little details start....the right clamps on the axle boots:
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The same thing for the heater hoses:
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Hooking up the heater cables, new fuel line in the front from the tank to the petcock, and it runs like a top:
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This may have been the most delicate thing i've tried on a car, resurrecting the wire filter from an old T5 washer fitting. This is totally different from the T6 piece that I'm used to and is a teeny little screen that's inserted into the black washer hose (unlike the T6 that's clear). Clever folks, these Germans:
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The finished product:
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That goes into the washer bag:
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Larry also added brake fluid and bled the brakes, and we started the alignment process on the side windows/vent windows.

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#153 Post by jim nelson » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:29 pm

Back in the saddle after a rather exhausting charity bike ride.
Larry located a nice tinted windshield, and the windshield gasket is one of those Italian jobs:
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Actually takes quite a while to get all the mold release agent off the windshield gasket:
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And it looks a little better with the windshield in place:
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So we snugged up the tension rod, which the interior guys had for some reason taken out, and started on the radio and doors.
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#154 Post by Jay Broemmel » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:20 pm

How did you get the tension rod tight? I've tried everything I can think of, including taking the radio out, and I can't even get the nut on. My oversized ape fingers don't help. Thanks, J

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#155 Post by jim nelson » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:33 pm

I've found that you can get the nut on and its washer by taking out both the radio and the glovebox. I use Gascacinch to glue the washer to the bottom of the nut, and then it's a bit of a braille exercise finding the end of the rod. Sometimes you can find a position where you can see it, which helps. Once you get the nut on, spin it as tight as you can get by hand and then it's little stubby 10mm wrenches.

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#156 Post by jim nelson » Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:59 pm

Little things bedevil us. We spent a couple of days trying to make the original seat rails on the seat try to play nice with the reproduction seat rails on the car side, and the creative language coming from that process would make a good basis for a movie. The biggest problem, and there are many, is that the original seat rails have a rounded edge where it turns under, and the repro's have a sharp edge that digs in at every turn. Incredibly frustrating. Larry scared up a set of original car side rails, and guess what--worked like a charm. Just shoot me now, apparently the guys that make the repro's don't fit them to cars.
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Way different finish, as well, compared to a new old one:
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And, as I go to install the radio, the bracket appears to be too short to allow the controls to sit flat, which doesn't work at all. But, as it turns out, you learn something new every day--there are at least two different brackets for the radio. The short one is for the really old, deep radio chassis and the longer one fits either.
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At least my skinny fingers could get the clips on the back of the script:
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Re: '60 Cab project

#157 Post by Dan Kalinski » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:16 pm

Great progress, Jim!

Have very much enjoyed this thread. Thank You!

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Re: '60 Cab project

#158 Post by Joris Koning » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:30 pm

jim nelson wrote: Just shoot me now, apparently the guys that make the repro's don't fit them to cars.
Correct Jim, but they will gladly take your money and then bullshit you when you complain their "new and improved concours" product does not work.
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#159 Post by jim nelson » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:46 pm

Joris Koning wrote:
jim nelson wrote: Just shoot me now, apparently the guys that make the repro's don't fit them to cars.
Correct Jim, but they will gladly take your money and then bullshit you when you complain their "new and improved concours" product does not work.
And....it's the first time anyone has complained about it....
It's particularly irksome when you find out that the part you wouldn't put on your car comes from Porsche Classic. WTF !!!

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#160 Post by C J Murray » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:52 pm

I am starting to be offended that your car is so perfect and exposes my cars for the total crap that they are.
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Re: '60 Cab project

#161 Post by Eric Wahlberg » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:17 pm

jim nelson wrote:
Joris Koning wrote:
jim nelson wrote: Just shoot me now, apparently the guys that make the repro's don't fit them to cars.
Correct Jim, but they will gladly take your money and then bullshit you when you complain their "new and improved concours" product does not work.
And....it's the first time anyone has complained about it....
It's particularly irksome when you find out that the part you wouldn't put on your car comes from Porsche Classic. WTF !!!
This is not a Porschecentric complaint as I hear it from restorers of both import and domestic cars. Customers often wonder why reassembly can take as long as it does, until they spend time observing the process. We often say we do not want reproduction parts, but counterfeit ones.
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Re: '60 Cab project

#162 Post by jim nelson » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:32 am

Eric Wahlberg wrote:
jim nelson wrote:
Joris Koning wrote:
jim nelson wrote: Just shoot me now, apparently the guys that make the repro's don't fit them to cars.
Correct Jim, but they will gladly take your money and then bullshit you when you complain their "new and improved concours" product does not work.
And....it's the first time anyone has complained about it....
It's particularly irksome when you find out that the part you wouldn't put on your car comes from Porsche Classic. WTF !!!
This is not a Porschecentric complaint as I hear it from restorers of both import and domestic cars. Customers often wonder why reassembly can take as long as it does, until they spend time observing the process. We often say we do not want reproduction parts, but counterfeit ones.

I get it. But when you buy a Ford factory part, you should have a higher degree of confidence that it will fit with no issues. Buy a part from Porsche Classic, and I say it should fit your Porsche with no issues. We aren't getting parts from someone who, with good intentions, tries to make it up. If it is a factory bit, it should fit.

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Re: '60 Cab project

#163 Post by Joris Koning » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:09 pm

Jim,

I do not care if it is a factory part or a part from one of big known vendors. If it has a premium price and is advertised as concours correct and "new and improved" it should fit and work as original. Take the seat rails. Close to $600 gets you something which does not work and is a step down from the versions original made by Brad despite being advertised as new and improved.

I wish we had people like Eric Linden in the 356 world who will provide us with high quality parts for a decent price. Brad used to do this (thanks Brad) but ever since management at Stoddard has been under new hands this has changed. Very sad to see that they are wasting one of the strongest assets in their business....Many of the parts issues they have right now would not be there if they would listen to Brad and actually try a part on the car before marketing it.

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#164 Post by jim nelson » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:31 pm

I really don't like to cover the parts in tar that the factory did. I guess it's the right thing to do, but that stuff has a pot life of about 30 seconds, and now we know why in some of the original car pictures the tar looks like it was put on with a paint brush, or a broom.
Before:
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After (ugh....):
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Not going to belabor those tar pictures. Here's that little plug that covers the access hole for the rear latch (insulation is factory):
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And a little shiny stuff:
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#165 Post by jim nelson » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:33 pm

C J Murray wrote:I am starting to be offended that your car is so perfect and exposes my cars for the total crap that they are.
Oh sure, start posting pictures of your latest project....it's gorgeous....

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