356C Steering Column
- Eric McKinley
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356C Steering Column
I recently received my signal switch back from rebuild, very happy with the job that type 356a did.
I have attempted to put the assembly together into the housing.
The problem I have and come up against at every turn is that I didn't take the car apart, it came in boxes.
I am learning from pictures on the web and the schematic drawings.
Could someone please cast an eye over this and ensure I have it correct, I have connected the horn wire onto the back of the brown ring,
The bearing is at the top of the shaft and spins freely.
I have 2 springs and another part with a split left over, am I correct in saying that the split part goes in next and the spring sits on top, have I one spring too many?
I have looked at the manual and it's not that clear, if anyone has a picture showing the order it would be great.
I have attempted to put the assembly together into the housing.
The problem I have and come up against at every turn is that I didn't take the car apart, it came in boxes.
I am learning from pictures on the web and the schematic drawings.
Could someone please cast an eye over this and ensure I have it correct, I have connected the horn wire onto the back of the brown ring,
The bearing is at the top of the shaft and spins freely.
I have 2 springs and another part with a split left over, am I correct in saying that the split part goes in next and the spring sits on top, have I one spring too many?
I have looked at the manual and it's not that clear, if anyone has a picture showing the order it would be great.
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Re: 356C Steering Column
It appears that you have one extra spring - as long as it doesn't appear broken i.e. - it wasn't one spring in the past ...
Greg Bryan
- Eric McKinley
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Thanks Greg,
It appears as 2 springs, the end section of the spring on both sides has been filed flat for some reason.
It appears as 2 springs, the end section of the spring on both sides has been filed flat for some reason.
- Alex Parmenter
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Eric, this looks to be a different diagram to yours, may help
Always searching for parts for my Oct 54 Pre A coupe including these:
2 piece 546/2 engine close to #336XX
Front bumper
Passenger sun visor
Bosch SH/ZS4/1 Ignition switch
Beige knobs for light switch, choke and heater controls
2 piece 546/2 engine close to #336XX
Front bumper
Passenger sun visor
Bosch SH/ZS4/1 Ignition switch
Beige knobs for light switch, choke and heater controls
- Eric McKinley
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Thanks Alex,
From your drawing I am going to assume that the closest number 29 is the bearing at the top of number 28, that is in place already on mine. The other 29 i am guessing is the part with the split in my picture, this must rest down into number 28, and then the spring, number 30 goes on top of this.
If anyone can confirm I have this correct it would be very helpful.
I think I have 1 spring extra for some reason.
They both look the same.
From your drawing I am going to assume that the closest number 29 is the bearing at the top of number 28, that is in place already on mine. The other 29 i am guessing is the part with the split in my picture, this must rest down into number 28, and then the spring, number 30 goes on top of this.
If anyone can confirm I have this correct it would be very helpful.
I think I have 1 spring extra for some reason.
They both look the same.
- Larry Coreth
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Eric,
B e sure to look at both sec.22 ST and 30 LI as together they tell the full story.
Note the dimension on pg. S 38 !
Can I assume you painted the steering column purposely that beige color as opposed to the original black for all C's regardless of interior color ?
B e sure to look at both sec.22 ST and 30 LI as together they tell the full story.
Note the dimension on pg. S 38 !
Can I assume you painted the steering column purposely that beige color as opposed to the original black for all C's regardless of interior color ?
Larry Coreth
Roanoake Rapids, NC
Roanoake Rapids, NC
- Eric McKinley
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Larry,
Thanks for the details.
Yes the steering column, E brake rod and fuel petcock rod have all been painted body color, heron grey.
As you point out, they should all be black, very reversible, and I think it makes a nice change from the sea of black under the dash.
Here is a picture of the interior color, still a work in progress, but it all seems to match well.
Thanks for the details.
Yes the steering column, E brake rod and fuel petcock rod have all been painted body color, heron grey.
As you point out, they should all be black, very reversible, and I think it makes a nice change from the sea of black under the dash.
Here is a picture of the interior color, still a work in progress, but it all seems to match well.
- Wes Bender
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Eric, it does appear that you have an extra spring. Make sure that the upper ring of #29 is installed so that it fits down into the bearing. The spring sets on top of it. Some folks have installed it upside down so that it sets on the bearing and fits up into the spring. They then wonder why they have a lot of side to side play in the steering column.
Cheers,
Wes
Cheers,
Wes
Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.....
- Larry Coreth
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Eric,
Each to his own ! Makes the interior look more 50's style than 60's, but just my view.
I'm envious though I wish my C coupe were as far along ! It's still in the body fixing stage.
Each to his own ! Makes the interior look more 50's style than 60's, but just my view.
I'm envious though I wish my C coupe were as far along ! It's still in the body fixing stage.
Larry Coreth
Roanoake Rapids, NC
Roanoake Rapids, NC
- Eric McKinley
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Larry,
I never really thought of it like that, but now I do, I think your right.
I'll give it a go and see what I think when it's finished.
I can always change it back if I decide it's not right.
Before you know it Larry you'll be attaching bits back on which is a great feeling.
Wes, I've done exactly as you mentioned and inserted number 29 in the correct way and placed the spring on top.
I think what was throwing me was the second spring.
I never really thought of it like that, but now I do, I think your right.
I'll give it a go and see what I think when it's finished.
I can always change it back if I decide it's not right.
Before you know it Larry you'll be attaching bits back on which is a great feeling.
Wes, I've done exactly as you mentioned and inserted number 29 in the correct way and placed the spring on top.
I think what was throwing me was the second spring.
- Sebastian Gaeta
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Eric,
Does the dash top upholstery wrap tight around the edges or is there material left over to tuck into the door seal?
Does the dash top upholstery wrap tight around the edges or is there material left over to tuck into the door seal?
Sebastian Gaeta
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'65 C coupe
'64 C cab
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2005 997 C2 Cab
1967 Karmann Ghia Convertible
1966 VW Single Cab
1966 Ducati Cafe Racer
1964 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1963 Beetle
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'64 C cab
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2005 997 C2 Cab
1967 Karmann Ghia Convertible
1966 VW Single Cab
1966 Ducati Cafe Racer
1964 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1963 Beetle
- Larry Coreth
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Good point Sebastian, the dash material should wrap around the A pillar and tuck under the weather strip.
Another one of those little details gleaned from spending hours looking at 356 photos, shop manuals, factory pics, etc. !
Necessary Due Diligence, but interesting.
Another one of those little details gleaned from spending hours looking at 356 photos, shop manuals, factory pics, etc. !
Necessary Due Diligence, but interesting.
Larry Coreth
Roanoake Rapids, NC
Roanoake Rapids, NC
- Eric McKinley
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Sebastian, a fair question.
Yes I left plenty of material to wrapped around the pillar and glued.
I actually completed that job last week.
On a separate note, has anyone experienced problems with door closure when the seal is placed on the outside of the opening.
I have only started to fit the passenger side first, it appears to be too thick and stopping the door from closing.
It seems to be just about where the striker on the body is located, that is where I have pinned it down to.
Yes I left plenty of material to wrapped around the pillar and glued.
I actually completed that job last week.
On a separate note, has anyone experienced problems with door closure when the seal is placed on the outside of the opening.
I have only started to fit the passenger side first, it appears to be too thick and stopping the door from closing.
It seems to be just about where the striker on the body is located, that is where I have pinned it down to.
- Sebastian Gaeta
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Hi Eric,
I am glad to hear that! It is a bummer when you see a car as nice as yours, with all of the obviously hard work poured into it, and that little detail is missed
As for your door closing issue, do a search as much has been discussed in the past. Alas, it is a not uncommon problem, even on cars that did not come to the owner in boxes. Unfortunately, that is one thing that is best taken care of before paint, but you are way past that in the process.
I am glad to hear that! It is a bummer when you see a car as nice as yours, with all of the obviously hard work poured into it, and that little detail is missed
As for your door closing issue, do a search as much has been discussed in the past. Alas, it is a not uncommon problem, even on cars that did not come to the owner in boxes. Unfortunately, that is one thing that is best taken care of before paint, but you are way past that in the process.
Sebastian Gaeta
www.arbormotion.com
Registry #8339
'65 C coupe
'64 C cab
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2014 Boxster 981
2005 997 C2 Cab
1967 Karmann Ghia Convertible
1966 VW Single Cab
1966 Ducati Cafe Racer
1964 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1963 Beetle
www.arbormotion.com
Registry #8339
'65 C coupe
'64 C cab
-------
2014 Boxster 981
2005 997 C2 Cab
1967 Karmann Ghia Convertible
1966 VW Single Cab
1966 Ducati Cafe Racer
1964 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1963 Beetle
- Eric McKinley
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Re: 356C Steering Column
Sebastian,
I took a picture today showing the dash wrapped around the pillar.
I think I did it correctly, I only have pictures to go by.
I took a picture today showing the dash wrapped around the pillar.
I think I did it correctly, I only have pictures to go by.