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Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:08 pm
by Brett Johnson
From information I currently have the Bilstein friction type jack replaced the Vigot (also Bilstein) screw jack at some point between March and October 1955. Even if your car doesn't have a jack, the brackets are very different since the diameter of the jack is. Attached photo is of the bracket from 54205 which has the narrower spacing for the later jack. I need additional data points, if possible around this time.

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:11 pm
by Victor Ingram
I have the narrow bracket in my cab #60890 build date 27.7.55
Friction jack. Narrow Brackets are really "offset" not centered as in Neds pictures.

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:14 am
by James Davies
Wide: 53404, 53425, 53427, 53460, 53462, 53662

Narrow: 53694, 53768, 54067

Based on photos, most unrestored.

So this puts in May/June 1955?

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:22 am
by Spencer Harris
Wide bracket in 53449, May 10,1955.

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:08 am
by Brett Johnson
May/June 1955 sounds good -- never realized it was that late. Appreciate the input. If there are later cars, let me know -- especially Speedsters!

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:48 am
by Vincent Gillespie
54122, finished on 13/9/55, photo done quickly so it's a a bit fuzzy, if you need a better one let me know.
V

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:45 pm
by Dennis Molnar
53765 Narrow.

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:09 pm
by Steve Douglas
Brett, I finally got to the warehouse and looked at Speedster 80493 and it has the narrow clips like the later ones.

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:37 pm
by Donald Zingg
Another way to quickly answer this question is observe the placement of the two jack storage clips in relation to the centerline of the body. In pre-A cars originally equipped with a Vigot gearhead jack the left and right jack holders are set roughly equal distance from the centerline of the trunk (see photos below).

In 1955 P-cars originally equipped with a Bilstein friction jack the right side jack holder is normally offset farther away from centerline in the trunk compared to the placement of the storage clip on the left side.
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Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:25 pm
by Ned Gorski
cab 60748 Feb 14th 1955 wide vigot

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:37 pm
by James Davies
Wow Don, how did you figure that out? That looks like something like 1-2cm difference. :shock: 8)

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:04 am
by Donald Zingg
James Davies wrote:Wow Don, how did you figure that out? That looks like something like 1-2cm difference. :shock: 8)
You are a man of science. You will recall, when 'roughly' measuring an object, or some distance between two objects, the standard maximum allowable error is one inch.

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:09 am
by Mike Smith
53 363 - Wide Jack Clips (Unrestored in this area)

Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:03 pm
by Donald Zingg
James Davies wrote:Wow Don, how did you figure that out? That looks like something like 1-2cm difference. :shock: 8)
Pre-A Speedster 81221 - - friction jack.
Note the location of the jack holder on the right side. It is offset away from the hood latch pedestal more than the jack holder on the left. Compare with the two photos above showing the jack holder arrangement in earlier 356 cars.
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Re: Jacks -- 1955 -- which one came with your car?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:17 pm
by Donald Zingg
Speedster 80913 and 81036, October 1955 - - wide clips, Vigot jack