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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#46 Post by James Davies » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:01 am

No, those horns are 12-volt models for Mercedes Benz and other period cars which had 12-volt systems. The mounting brackets are correct for mid-54 onward. Not for 1953.

And no, that's a later 1960s voltage regulator.

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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#47 Post by Spencer Harris » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:33 pm

James Davies wrote:TheSamba classifieds is the best place to find a D regulator. Up until late 1953, Porsches used the same electrical system as VWs - same 130 watt generator, same regulator. Be aware that the voltage regulator needs to be matched up to the generator.
Generator RED 130/6 2600 AL16
Regulator RS/G 130/6/11
Porsche and VW stopped using that regulator around the same time in late 1953.
Here's what the D-style regulator and a 130 watt generator look like. (From the numbers this looks like an earlier generator - the AL15 was used from '51 until they started using the AL16. Not sure about the regulator as the Bosch list of wear & tear parts indicates the model RS/G 130/6/1 regulator was used with the AL15 dynamo, and the 6/11 model with the AL16 as James indicates above. I think the Samba model is a RS/G 130-150/6/2 possibly indicating OK for 130W up to 150W?).

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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#48 Post by Vincent Gillespie » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:35 am

I got this in a box of miscellaneous 356 stuff years ago and just put it on a shelf.
I've just noticed the markings on the bracket, below the terminal connection info of
+61 B+ it's stamped
TA 7V 45A, then below this
D190 213 036
Would I be right in assuming this is VW?
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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#49 Post by Spencer Harris » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:02 pm

Vincent,
My collection of Bosch wear & tear parts lists only goes through 1958 models which show the 160W regulator from Sept '56 to be no. RS/UA 160/6/24.
I would trust James' assessment that yours is a 60s model regulator. Perhaps someone has the wear & tear list for later models they could share.
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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#50 Post by Ross Copeland » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:04 pm

[quote="James Davies"]No, those horns are 12-volt models for Mercedes Benz and other period cars which had 12-volt systems. The mounting brackets are correct for mid-54 onward. Not for 1953.

James how do the mounting brackets and posts differ on a 53 car- do you have an image or reference . Mine are missing from the car

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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#51 Post by David Green » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:24 pm

Ross,
There is no mounting bracket on my '53. The horn is mounted with a single long bolt through a hole in the driver side fender brace flat metal plate, a steel tube over the bolt as a "stand off" to move the horn forward, and then through the multi-leaf horn bracket. In the photo you can see the mounting hole in the fender brace (before straightening/repair). I can get a photo of the mounted horn in the next day or so if helpful.
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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#52 Post by Spencer Harris » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:06 pm

Ross Copeland wrote:how do the mounting brackets and posts differ on a 53 car
Mounted as David describes. Some additional photos & details here:
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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#53 Post by James Davies » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:01 pm

Exactly as David describes. Here's one.
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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#54 Post by Ross Copeland » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:42 pm

David Green wrote:Ross,
There is no mounting bracket on my '53. The horn is mounted with a single long bolt through a hole in the driver side fender brace flat metal plate, a steel tube over the bolt as a "stand off" to move the horn forward, and then through the multi-leaf horn bracket. In the photo you can see the mounting hole in the fender brace (before straightening/repair). I can get a photo of the mounted horn in the next day or so if helpful.
David
Thanks David. More pics would be awesome

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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#55 Post by Ross Copeland » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:43 pm

James Davies wrote:Exactly as David describes. Here's one.
That’s the money shot James- I’ll send to Julian to see if he has this mounting post set up

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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#56 Post by David Green » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Ross,
Here's the mounted horn. Sorry for the photo orientation - somehow it got turned CCW. Other than the multi-leaf bracket that Julian sells, there is nothing else required but a bolt, nut, a few washers and a short piece of steel tube who's ID fits over the bolt.
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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#57 Post by Ross Copeland » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:22 pm

David Green wrote:Here's the mounted horn. Sorry for the photo orientation - somehow it got turned CCW. Other than the multi-leaf bracket that Julian sells, there is nothing else required but a bolt, nut, a few washers and a short piece of steel tube who's ID fits over the bolt.
David
Brilliant thanks. Appreciate the picture. Very clear.
Julian Hardy has been very helpful and can supply everything I need - order done and now I know how it is to be correctly mounted- on to the next job :)

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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#58 Post by James Davies » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:32 am

Notice the 1953 and earlier vibration mounts have 3 leaves, but each leaf is only single thickness. The later ones were two layers.

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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#59 Post by Ross Copeland » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:36 am

My 53 seats might need some work :)
So question for the forum- the drivers seat has no adjustment- only a tip forward back rest. The passenger seat has a full recliner mechanism.

Is this correct or have I somehow ended up with incorrect seats. They appear to be original for the car and the corduroy is correct to the Reutter Build Sheet
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Re: 53 1500S Radium Green

#60 Post by Ross Copeland » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:19 am

My Glove Box and Ash tray knobs are cracked badly - Repair doesn't seem an option.
Has anyone used the repros available form KarmannKonnection? Wondering about quality and if correct size before I order.
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