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Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#1 Post by David Green » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:52 pm

I ordered a set of front and rear replacement rubber brake lines from Stoddard and they sent me 4 of the rears telling me that Pre-A fronts are no longer available and their recommended substitute is to use the rears on the front. This is clearly a bad idea as it requires a big loop that will likely hit the suspension and thus not safe. My old fronts are approximately 345mm and the new rears are 560mm (photo). They list a front pn 644.42.311 but when I called my regular rep he checked and told me that it's for later cars and is too short for Pre-As: hard to understand there's a line shorter than 345mm, but that's the info I have.
Anyone have a source and part number for proper length fronts?
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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#2 Post by Greg Bryan » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:49 pm

Did you check early 60s VW?
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#3 Post by John Brooks » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:39 am

Try these guys, measure the old hose and ask them to make it. They got old tooling, some patents and drawings from the fatherland a few years ago. I bought a set a couple years back. The hose was ATE and the fittings were DIN. Worked for me. Easy group,to work with they can make any hose.

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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#4 Post by Alan Hall » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:57 am

As I recall pre-A front brake lines are the same length as Karmann Ghia front lines from some year range. Unfortunately I don't recall what years but I believe there are only two versions of KG lines so it should be fairly easy to find out which ones you need.

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#5 Post by Vincent Gillespie » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:54 am

Hello, I got mine a while ago from http://www.hansmotors.co.uk/productsandsuppliers.html, I believe they were the original importers for ATE stuff into the UK back in the day, great to deal with. I know they are based in the UK but there's always Royal Mail.
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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#6 Post by Jim Karaba » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:44 pm

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp ... -611-701-B
VW parts will work for this just fine.

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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#7 Post by David Green » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:22 pm

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
For future reference, Stoddard measured their front rubber hose part number 644.42.311 and it's 380mm (15"). Sierra Madre's same part number is 410mm (16")
Jim - thanks for the link to the proper hose. I just ordered two.
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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#8 Post by ignacio vivancos » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:40 am

So, what would be the vw substitute for the rears?
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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#9 Post by David Green » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:05 am

My rear brake hoses are 560 mm = 22" and don't see hoses close to this length listed on the EIS VW Supply website:

http://www.eisparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?

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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#10 Post by Brad Ripley » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:41 pm

In the case of ATE -brand hoses, you will find the length as part of the ATE number stamped on the metal end. For that matter, most ATE part numbers have a size/length as part of their part number.

Here's a link to the ATE classic catalog for Porsche. http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/2826/at ... orsche.pdf hunt down for a list by Porsche part number = ATE part number and look for the various lengths within the ATE number. Of course, if you think a VW part would have a better length, then load the VW and look around.
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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#11 Post by Alan Hall » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:35 pm

I notice the ATE catalog does not list a front hose for pre-A. Earliest hose they show is for 356A starting 1/56.

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Re: Front Rubber Brake Line Source for 1953

#12 Post by Brad Ripley » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:12 am

Keep scrolling down on that ATE listing for a listing by ATE number, then look for where you see 345 within the number. It may say BMW, or something. Then go to the BMW listing to find what model BMW so you can buy the part.

Note: how the length is measured in the drawing above -- not the overall length!

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