64C 356 Hotrod build

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Michael Moss
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64C 356 Hotrod build

#1 Post by Michael Moss » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:07 am

I found this car locally that needed floors and a total restoration. It came with a very rusty 912 that I parted out and kept the engine, transaxle & rear suspension. After replacing the floors, rebuilding the engine and brakes I found the transaxle needed rebuilding also. With the parts from the 912 I decided to make the plunge and build an Outlaw. After driving and enjoying the car with the 5 speed & 900 rear suspension I decided to take it off the road October last year to finish what I had started 15 yrs ago. Mods include the early 900 rear suspension 901/5 speed, 2.7ltr type IV f.i., crankfire, drysump. Rear fenders were split to accomodate Coddington 7" alloys. After getting the car back from paint mid July, the front and rear suspension is in and the front of the car is finished except for the bumper. Moving back to the wiring under dash now.
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Rear fenders split and rear bumper widened
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Mocking up the Type IV engine & oil tank install.
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Trunk done!
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On the dolly from paint.
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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#2 Post by Alan Hall » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:31 am

Looking great Mike! Can't wait to see it in person.

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#3 Post by Martin Benade » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:57 pm

It looks extremely nice. Does Stoddard stock an oversize rear bumper?

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#4 Post by Michael Moss » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:26 pm

Martin thanks. No to your question, I picked up a rear bumper at a swap meet & cut it just ouside of the mounts and welded sections back in. It about 3 1/2 to 4" wider than a stock rear bumper, and now has GT trim. Mike

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#5 Post by Bob Murray » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:20 am

Mike,
The Car is really looking GREAT. Can't wait to go on a drive.
Paint looks awesome

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#6 Post by Richard Sutliffe » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:59 pm

Kudos Mike.
Huge number of great mods. Way beyond what most of us could do. Keep it up. Looking terrific.
Rich

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#7 Post by Bill Oldham » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:29 pm

Mike,
It’s terrific! But now you will be protective. Great work. I hope to see it soon ( when I get back in town)
Bill

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#8 Post by Doug McDonnell » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:13 pm

Outlaw with similar rear fender mods just sold on BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-porsche-356b-18/ Stock transmission though. Is your car an early C? I noticed the front closing panel is flat like the early C's I just noticed that the head says 64C so must be an early one.
1965 356C There is never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over.

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#9 Post by Michael Moss » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Vin # 215193 puts it at a July, August of 63 car.

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#10 Post by Michael Moss » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:43 am

Update on the build. Underdash wiring is in, headliner & glass is in, working on the interior and trim. Starting to look like a car again!
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Oil tank installed
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Prepping the transaxle for the install
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Engine breather
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Engine fit up
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Interior going in
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Rear quarter window installed

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#11 Post by Michael Moss » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:31 am

Brakes are finished, I upgraded to an early 911/912 dual circuit master cylinder. Brembo calipers in front with vented 911 rotors turned to 356 rotor diameter. The rear calipers were widened 10mm (with spacers) and early 944 vented rotors in the rear turned to early 911/912 rotor diameter. The upholstery is getting closer, doors are finished and the dash is in. Just waiting on the seats to finish up the interior. Fuel injection wiring is next, then on to the engine build.
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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#12 Post by Norm Miller » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:47 pm

Along with the rest of the mods I like the brake light switch.

She's a beaut!
 

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#13 Post by Michael Moss » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:41 pm

Norm: Thanks for the compliments. I had a 66 912 that always needed the hydraulic brake light swich replaced. A new one would last a month or so, (clean brake fluid bled them several times) I got tired of changing them and not having brake lights, and put a mechanical switch on the pedal cluster. That ended all my problems. I've not had the problem on the 356, but the pedal cluster was out staring me in the face so I decided to put a mechanical switch on it also. Mike

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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#14 Post by Mark Schumacher » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:37 pm

Mike

Very nice build!
Can you say more about the engine? I am just starting a Type 4 build for my 912. I also ordered a Sharpbuilt fan shroud.
Thanks
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Re: 64C 356 Hotrod build

#15 Post by Michael Moss » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:51 pm

Mark: The engine build started about 10 years ago. At the time a friend & I bought identical parts for our engines. Some of the parts came from Raby ( heads LE 200 and cam) & FAT for the crank, rods, & pistons & cylinders. The engines are 2680cc 82mm stroke x102mm bore. The fuel injection is TWM 44mm throttle bodies with Haltec engine management. It's crank fire, sequential injection and dry sumped. The first engine dyno'd @ 170hp to the rear tires with 185ft/ lbs of torque and has been running for about 4 years now. It's in a 63 coupe with the 5/speed conversion. The stock gearing was too low, and we changed all 5 of the gears to higher ratios. The fuel injection has been the biggest struggle with a steep learning curve. At least with mine I can load the map my friends car has and tweek it from there if necessary. Mike

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