Calling all Outlaws with Type IV 914 Motor! Talk to Us!!

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Re: Calling all Outlaws with Type IV 914 Motor! Talk to Us!!

#16 Post by Helge Tielker » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:07 pm

isn't there a video from Ray Leno's garage with an 1959 A sunroof 356 Coupe, 911 rear suspension and a 914 motor modified by Fat motors (2.6 ltr 200hp out of original 2.0 ltr.) made by Emory ...
I would love to get a 914 motor inside our 356 BT5 ....
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#17 Post by Stewart Webster » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:46 am

I fitted a motor built by Bernie Bergmann into my roadster outlaw that is in the forum site a couple of years ago. It's 2.4 upright fan and flys. I think it's a great option for an outlaw tho the purist would shudder. If it's an outlaws it's you that makes the call Stewart webster
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#18 Post by Jim Liberty » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:16 pm

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I put one in my '64 Type II. A perfect 150 HP Outlaw motor on the cheap.
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#19 Post by neil blaber » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:28 am

Conrad Carter wrote:I have a 2054cc 914. It has KB forged Pistons. 138 hp @ 6,000 rpm. Check out Dyno run at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVxSIES50o8. TM-25 Type IV. Chico Performance Racing built in 2009. Dual 2 throat Webers. DTM shroud. SyncLink throttle system. Tangerine exhaust.
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its nice to see what your type 4 made, i have a 2258cc drd racing full engine kit and drd L6 heads for my 62 coupe, hoping it will be around 150-160hp darren says it will pull right of idle, so we shall see :)
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#20 Post by Wes Bender » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:22 pm

This is a very interesting thread. Hope you get more responses to it. I certainly wouldn't convert a numbers-matching car to run a 914 engine, but if I had a 356, sans engine, I would love to do this conversion on it.
Some days it just isn’t worth the hassle of chewing through the restraints......

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#21 Post by Jim Liberty » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 pm

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Here is the Type IV in my '63 Splitty Type II. Plenty of power, sounds great. We built it here, $25/35K.
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#22 Post by neil blaber » Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:07 am

Jim Liberty wrote:
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Here is the Type IV in my '63 Splitty Type II. Plenty of power, sounds great. We built it here, $25/35K.
looks to me jim you have an awesome garage! loving the splitty! :)
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#23 Post by Stewart Webster » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:04 am

I fitted a type 4 built by bernie Bergmann in LA into my outlaw roadster about two years ago Upright fan and 2.3 litre,it wasnt cheap but sure looks the part and in keeping with the car. I posted photos of the car a few years back if anyone is interested
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#24 Post by David Gilliland » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:32 pm

I have a Raby upright shroud on my 2314 Type IV.. With the type cooler set up I'm having trouble with the hex bar linkage and don't see how its possible to fit the top left engine/trans bolt. Offset cooler ties up that space. Any body out there with the same setup that can help? thanks in advance.
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#25 Post by Martin Benade » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:02 am

I think some of the later VWs had a threaded insert pressed into the top left hole, and then the bolt is installed from the front by the clutch lever. Not so easy, but not impossible.

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#26 Post by Greg Bryan » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:57 pm

Martin is correct, I just did this job on a type 1 I've been working on. From '71, the dual port engine had the offset oil cool and it took up all the room to get your hand in on the left side for the top nut. A 10mm nut-sert was pressed into the case and one has to go under the car with a bolt - a long extension and a 17mm wobble socket makes it pretty easy to do.
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#27 Post by David Gilliland » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:36 am

Wondering if anyone out there has skirted their front wheels. I have huge flairs and was wondering if the stock 165/80 tires/wheels would not rub.
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#28 Post by David Gilliland » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:42 am

Sorry for putting the above under the Type 4 heading. Thought I was starting a new thread. Still working on linkage and exhaust systems for my 2314 Type 4.
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#29 Post by Michael Moss » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:55 pm

Finally getting to work on my 64. Mocking up the enging tin & oil tank fitment. Out with the small block (1735cc) in with the big block (2680cc) Sequential F. I. Dry sump, crank fire.
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#30 Post by Greg Bryan » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:30 am

Michael - which fan housing are you using? It looks like the stock oil cooler is used.
Also, what kind of FI are you using? Looks like a cool set up.
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