Back on the road 356 Turbo
- Mike DeJonge
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Back on the road 356 Turbo
after 6 years of trial and error and the engine being in and out numerous times, it is finally running real good 1980cc doing an honest 195 hp on the engine dyno. fuel injected, Big Stuff management system for fuel pressure, boost pressure, oil pressure, meth injection, timing and individual cylinder spark control. Has a crank trigger system, new custom grind cam, new scatt crank, and titanium sodium filled valves. Turbo has ceramic bearings for quick spool up. goes like stink
Mike dejonge
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- C J Murray
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
Mike- Do you mean titanium intakes and sodium filled stainless exhausts? If you do have sodium filled ti valves, who makes them?Mike DeJonge wrote:titanium sodium filled valves
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
Hi CJ
Exceldine i beleive has that capability. Talked to them about doing them for a 4-Cam. Capricorn is way behind me in upgraded parts for the 4-Cam. They only DLC the rockers from what i can tell.
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jacques
Exceldine i beleive has that capability. Talked to them about doing them for a 4-Cam. Capricorn is way behind me in upgraded parts for the 4-Cam. They only DLC the rockers from what i can tell.
FCF
jacques
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
ooo video link or we don't believe youMike DeJonge wrote:goes like stink
http://356restoration.blogspot.com/ yeh I know its not a 356 but my missus set up the blog for me. I wanted the real thing so much that I even replicated a restoration lmao!
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
for the sodium filled, and titanium valves check with the VW guys who are drag racing their buggies. I looked thru my paper work but can't find the guys name. He is out of Tennessee and builds sand drag motors. I will have a look again when I get back from Hershey. We used chevy guides for the valves, they are not as tall, so would not disturb airflow as much as stock guides
Mike dejonge
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
not a very good artist, hope this will suffice. I will have to get one of my boys to shoot a video and post it
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- C J Murray
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
I have seen titanium valves. I have seen sodium filled stainless. I have not seen sodium filled titanium.Mike DeJonge wrote:for the sodium filled, and titanium valves
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- Jacques Lefriant
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
CJ
Where have you been? CV Products/Xceldyne has been Sodium filling Ti exhaust valves for at least 10 years. Now since you seem to have all the answers why did Porsche use sodium filled intake valves on the 4-Cam engines? What CV does they bore the stem and go to say 4mm of the head and do about a 60% fill and close. the 4-Cam is filled from the face/head and the whole head is hollowed out and the stem is bored to lighten the valve. but is that the only reason?
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jacques
and interesting story i tried to buy Sodium from Dow chemical but i had to supply a permit from Homeland Security letting me buy a usable amount. i may have to harvest all the old valves i have in a glove box for my project.
Where have you been? CV Products/Xceldyne has been Sodium filling Ti exhaust valves for at least 10 years. Now since you seem to have all the answers why did Porsche use sodium filled intake valves on the 4-Cam engines? What CV does they bore the stem and go to say 4mm of the head and do about a 60% fill and close. the 4-Cam is filled from the face/head and the whole head is hollowed out and the stem is bored to lighten the valve. but is that the only reason?
FCF
jacques
and interesting story i tried to buy Sodium from Dow chemical but i had to supply a permit from Homeland Security letting me buy a usable amount. i may have to harvest all the old valves i have in a glove box for my project.
- C J Murray
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
I do not know but I will guess...They didn't know any better?Jacques Lefriant wrote:Now since you seem to have all the answers why did Porsche use sodium filled intake valves on the 4-Cam engines?
My understanding is that hollow valves, filled or not, are a risk because the inside surface can't really be inspected for flaws that may lead to a failure. They are light though.
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- Rusty Willey
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Re: Back on the road 356 Turbo
Don't know crap about high performance valves. I do know a 356 with just short of 200 ponies is awesome! Nice job Mike!!!!!
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