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Seat recliner knobs

#1 Post by Mike Wilson » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:16 pm

Question: what shape of knob(s) were used on the passenger seat to release the seat back? The B supplement and the C parts manuals both show a round knob. However, I've also seen the tulip-shaped knobs used. Did the tulip-shaped knob come with the late C's?

This is the knob that allows the seat back to be unlocked and folded forward not to adjust the angle of the seat.

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#2 Post by Mike Wilson » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:30 pm

A very knowledgeable 356-er sent me a PM expaining that the tulip knobs were for the C models and the round ones were actually a press-fit, not threaded, for the B's. However, my B coupe, #213532, had threaded levers so I'm assuming that perhaps the later B's and then the C's with the threaded levers had the tulip knobs.

If you have a car that you know has the original recliner knobs, I'd like to hear from you. It would be good info to pass along and perhaps included in Brett's reissued book.
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Re: Seat recliner knobs

#3 Post by Doug McDonnell » Wed May 01, 2019 12:35 pm

My 65 C 130660 7/14/64 completion date It has the plain 65C type seat hinges.
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#4 Post by Mike Wilson » Wed May 01, 2019 2:56 pm

Thanks, Doug. Are the round knobs threaded or press-fit?

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Re: Seat recliner knobs

#5 Post by Edwin Ek » Fri May 10, 2019 3:14 am

My dad's 1964 C coupe, which he picked up at the factory in the summer of 1964, had spherical (round) knobs. I was a small kid then, so I rode in the back seats and used those knobs many times to get out.

I can't say whether they were threaded or press fit.
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#6 Post by David Lawrence » Fri May 10, 2019 9:00 am

My unmolested 1964 C Cab, 160578.
Kardex build date 5/22/64.
Kardex sold by Hoffman, PC Northeast on 8/06/64.
Has tulip-shaped threaded knobs.
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#7 Post by Mike Wilson » Fri May 10, 2019 11:58 am

Thanks everyone for your input. At last week's North Meets South I inspected the passenger side recliners on many cars. Most had the tulip-shaped knobs; a few had round.

Ken Ito sent me pics of original tulip and round knobs. The tulip knobs were threaded; the round ones were press-fit. I'm working on an assumption that if the seat back release lever was threaded, a tulip knob was installed and if the lever wasn't threaded, it had a round knob. To verify that, if you have an original round recliner knob, check to see if it is press-fit or threaded. If you have an original round knob and it is threaded, that blows my theory out the window but further supports my mantra: "Porsche...consistently inconsistent..."

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#8 Post by Dan Macdonald » Fri May 10, 2019 1:02 pm

My 65 C coupe (Karmann) 220256 has the round black knobs.
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#9 Post by Mike Wilson » Fri May 10, 2019 1:06 pm

Thanks for that info, Dan. Are the knobs/levers threaded?

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#10 Post by Dan Macdonald » Fri May 10, 2019 1:12 pm

Yes, I think so but I better go check.
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#11 Post by Bob Kittel » Tue May 28, 2019 9:59 pm

august 12, 63 build with threaded tulips
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#12 Post by Dan Macdonald » Tue May 28, 2019 10:36 pm

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I finally looked. My round knobs are a press fit.
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#13 Post by Mike Wilson » Wed May 29, 2019 11:13 am

Thanks, Doug. It seems that there were no definitive applications of tulip or round knobs as others who have weighed in note that the knobs weren't limited to certain years.

My conclusion: the recliners were assembled using whatever knobs were on hand at the time. Another reaffirmation of my mantra:
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#14 Post by Jim Breazeale » Wed May 29, 2019 10:53 pm

Round knobs came both threaded and press fit. So did the tulips. Press fit knobs only came on 65 356Cs and SCs. All the rest are threaded.

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#15 Post by Jim Breazeale » Wed May 29, 2019 11:06 pm

65 Cs also came with a little rubber flap and a fiber washer near the knob.
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