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Re: turn signal question

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:00 pm
by Peter Silten
I have seen a number of European (ROW) models. As I recall, all of the turn signals had the appropriate SWF markings. But I suppose anything is possible.

Re: turn signal question

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:00 pm
by Mervyn Hyde
It is indeed Peter, as we have seen on other issues. I was only responding to Jim's initial question.

Re: turn signal question

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:28 pm
by Jim Breazeale
Peter Silten wrote:FWIW, I seriously doubt that they are original. My 63B, which I have owned since 1973, has the SWF markings on the front turn signals. The only front turn signals I have seen ever without the SWF markings were either reproductions or ones that had been rechromed to the point that the markings have been obliterated.
Peter

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree.
I'm pretty sure that the ones with no writing on them were made in the 80s by SWF and were meant for the ROW market. I've still got a dozen or so of them that I bought back then (35 years ago?). I'm pretty sure that all the "no writing" turn signals have screw on terminals rather than "bullet" connectors. All of the replacement turn signal and tail light assemblies made by SWF have screw on terminals.
My pictures show the difference between original SWF turn signal assys and replacement (no writing)
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SWF assys.

Re: turn signal question

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:49 pm
by Peter Silten
Hi Jim --

The original question was: “Is there a point where later (T-5 and T-6) turn signals lost the SWF (plus a number) script on them, if ever? Would the answer be the same worldwide?” I mistakenly interpreted the question as asking whether any of the T-5 and T-6 front turn signals that were on those model cars when they left the factory had no SWF markings on them. I now see that the original question was asking something else – i.e., whether SWF ever made replacement turn signals for the T-5 and T-6 cars that did not have any markings on them. And the answer to that question, according to your experience, is that SWF made turn signals without any markings sometime in the 80s. I guess the question re these later turn signals, borrowing a phrase from the 80s, is then “Is it live or is it Memorex.” Though made by SWF, I view the later turn signals as reproductions.

Respectfully,

Peter

Re: turn signal question

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:33 am
by Jim Nelson
Peter Silten wrote:Hi Jim --

The original question was: “Is there a point where later (T-5 and T-6) turn signals lost the SWF (plus a number) script on them, if ever? Would the answer be the same worldwide?” I mistakenly interpreted the question as asking whether any of the T-5 and T-6 front turn signals that were on those model cars when they left the factory had no SWF markings on them. .

Respectfully,

Peter

In fact, Peter, that was the original question. At a recent concours, one competitor was adamant that ROW, or at least Euro cars, had no identifying number script. I've seen a few original Euro cars, mine among them, that had the script, and hadn't seen any that weren't repros that didn't have the script, or some that had been rechromed where the rechromer got too enthusiastic with the copper base. I was trying to find out if there was anything to the guy's story, but I think he has been led down the wrong road. i think every car that left the factory when it was made new, for T5 and T6, would have the script.

Re: turn signal question

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:36 am
by Joris Koning
jim nelson wrote: In fact, Peter, that was the original question. At a recent concours, one competitor was adamant that ROW, or at least Euro cars, had no identifying number script.
Jim, is this the whiny character who was furious that he lost out to you guys for the $5 trophy? Wish I was there that day, would have been fun. Even more fun if Jim B. would have also been around. What a story

Re: turn signal question

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:04 am
by Jim Nelson
Oh, just trying to expand my knowledge base....you never know what might have come from the factory, so "correct" always seems like a moving target....