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Factory Roll bars

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:26 am
by Mal Roberts
I believe that the factory offered a roll bar option, but only for Roadsters and only in 1960.
Is there any way I can find out how many cars were built with this option and especially with the S90 motor as well?

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:09 pm
by Vic Skirmants
Welcome aboard, Mal. The 1959 GT speedsters also had factory roll bars, as well as the S-90 GT coupes of 1960-61. There were probably others as well.

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:34 am
by Ronald Sieber
Are there photos or parts numbers of these factory roll bars by 356 model that someone would be able to share?

Thanks,

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:57 am
by C J Murray
Here is an accurate reproduction sold by GT Werk. Roll bars in street cars are dangerous to your health due to head injuries.
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Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:48 am
by Ronald Sieber
Thanks, CJ, for posting. I was asking because my (now) street Speedster came with a nice bolt-in roll bar in it from its competition days. I have found the stamped marking "Republic" on it but otherwise no identifiers. Another thing taking up space in my basement...

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:47 am
by Mike Smith
I remember where I took this Photograph but did not record when. However it was at least 20 x years ago
I have it recorded as Chassis No. 119 020 which interestingly is not a Carrera engined car

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:06 pm
by Ronald Roland
Mal,
Is your Roadster installation from the factory? Serial number and engine number, please, if it is. Look carefully at the photos provided by Mike Smith. Note the reinforcing collars and wide plates around the stubs. The stubs are hollow tubes with caps welded on. If they are solid, bullet-looking pieces, it may be the kit from GT Werk - an excellent reproduction. The factory installation in 119020 (a '62 T-6 Coupe) proves Vic's statement that the roll bar could be ordered as an option for any car - this was obviously not done as a dealer addition. I believe 1958 GT cars had the bar also.

Incidentally, if you use this roll bar installation for more than looks, you will want to reinforce the rear seat back mounts, to which the rear braces attach. They are not very strong, especially the little boss that is welded to the sheet metal in Speedsters, etc. - they can be twisted off without roll bar activation! It's also a good idea to cut the longitudinal open, fold the metal back and weld the stub deep into the chassis, as the factory did, before closing everything back up - or plan ahead and do it while the rest of the car is being restored.

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:44 am
by Vic Skirmants
Hi Ron. Hope to see more posts from you.

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:20 am
by Mal Roberts
Thanks for your replies and help in my roll bar research. I must apologise for not responding earlier as being a new member, I thought my original post had not been recorded. (I was looking under the wrong heading).
In response to Ron's input, I have tried to attached a photo of the stubs in my 1960 S90 Roadster which I believe to be an original factory option. I have a C of A which verifies the roll bar was supplied with three other options when the car was ordered new. This can probably be checked from it's chassis No. 88170 and engine No. P800968.
If my research is correct that only 132 Drauz bodied Super 90 Roadsters were made in 1960, I would very interested to find out how many of those were delivered with the roll bar option. My guess it would be that less than 10%, but if factory records still exist, it would be great to et hold of some accurate data.

Re: Factory Roll bars

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:54 am
by Jim Nelson