62 S-90 engine numbers
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62 S-90 engine numbers
I just purchased a Champagne Yellow 62 S-90 sunroof coupe that was stated to be a matching numbers car. As I was looking over all the numbers from the VIN, 210807, to transmission, 56755-741/2A. I noticed that the engine was a little off. Most of the books state the engine #'s should be from P-804631 to P-805600. Engine in the car is P-805660. Should I be concerned?
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Re: 62 S-90 engine numbers
What does the COA say?
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Re: 62 S-90 engine numbers
Mark - I checked the Maestro's Little Spec Book and it looks like your numbers are inline with other cars produced in the first part of 1962. The was a S90 coupe with chassis number 210835 that was fitted with engine number 805727. In the Spec Book there is also engine number 805665 that has a date stamp of 15/16/62.
Granted a COA is the best way to know if the engine is original, but it doesn't appear that your engine is too far off and was certainly produced around April 1962.
Granted a COA is the best way to know if the engine is original, but it doesn't appear that your engine is too far off and was certainly produced around April 1962.
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Is that the car that was originally Smyrna Green and repainted yellow? I think the engine number is the least of the problem. Nice paint though. What does the COA say? KTF
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Thanks Keith. I was hoping that was the case.
Tom, Do you know this car or something? PO said it is the original color and all of the old pictures he gave me leads me to believe that. I could be wrong. The PO said I should have a copy of a "Porsche Telefax" from the factory somewhere in the stack of papers he gave me. Would this be as good as a COA?
Tom, Do you know this car or something? PO said it is the original color and all of the old pictures he gave me leads me to believe that. I could be wrong. The PO said I should have a copy of a "Porsche Telefax" from the factory somewhere in the stack of papers he gave me. Would this be as good as a COA?
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Re: 62 S-90 engine numbers
Mark
According to the Factory Spec Book (the book Harry pirated to get most of his data), your car was made very near the end of production of 62 year model cars. The engine fitted to it was near the very first numbers of engines fitted to 63 year model cars. They are probably within a month or two of each other. It could very well be the original engine, but is out of the serial number range for 62 year model cars. A Kardex or Certificate of Authenticity should clear up any questions.
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According to the Factory Spec Book (the book Harry pirated to get most of his data), your car was made very near the end of production of 62 year model cars. The engine fitted to it was near the very first numbers of engines fitted to 63 year model cars. They are probably within a month or two of each other. It could very well be the original engine, but is out of the serial number range for 62 year model cars. A Kardex or Certificate of Authenticity should clear up any questions.
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Thanks Jim. I found a Porsche Telefax in the papers. It was sent to the factory "Porsche AG Kundensport" phone number 49 7044 352022, on January 25, 1991. Fax sent back from a Jurgen Barth with requested information on Chassis Number 210 807. Fax confirms engine number 805 660; Gearbox 56755-741/2A; Colour No. 6205 B; Optional Equipment: Electrical sliding roof and Chromium-plated wheels. There spelling, not mine.
I think this will do.
I think this will do.
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MarkMark Jung wrote:Thanks Jim. I found a Porsche Telefax in the papers. It was sent to the factory "Porsche AG Kundensport" phone number 49 7044 352022, on January 25, 1991. Fax sent back from a Jurgen Barth with requested information on Chassis Number 210 807. Fax confirms engine number 805 660; Gearbox 56755-741/2A; Colour No. 6205 B; Optional Equipment: Electrical sliding roof and Chromium-plated wheels. There spelling, not mine.
I think this will do.
That is way better than a stupid "Certificate of Authenticity". Sent from Jurgen Barth, no less.
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Thanks Jim & Charlie. Better than a COA, love it. The fax is even printed on the old very thin fax paper. I'll scan it and keep the original in the safe.
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Re: 62 S-90 engine numbers
Jim hit the nail right on the head here. Remember that the chassis/engine number tables are based on what is typical, and should never be considered an absolute. They are correct for 95%+ cars, but there are many exceptions as Mark has.Jim Breazeale wrote:Mark
According to the Factory Spec Book (the book Harry pirated to get most of his data), your car was made very near the end of production of 62 year model cars. The engine fitted to it was near the very first numbers of engines fitted to 63 year model cars. They are probably within a month or two of each other. It could very well be the original engine, but is out of the serial number range for 62 year model cars. A Kardex or Certificate of Authenticity should clear up any questions.
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