Numbers numbers number....an educational post for a beginner

356 Porsche-related discussions and questions.
Post Reply
Message
Author
Rick Cicciarelli
356 Fan
Posts: 35
Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:21 pm
Location: Ithaca, N.Y.

Numbers numbers number....an educational post for a beginner

#1 Post by Rick Cicciarelli »

So we have in front of us a used/driver '62-'63 coupe. We want to look for "matching numbers" to see if the chassis/engine/color/interior are what they should be for originality. Where do we look?
I believe the chassis and paint numbers should be on a plate on the door hinge post if I'm not mistaken?
How does one verify whether the engine is original to the car and whether the interior color is original?

User avatar
Ron LaDow
356 Fan
Posts: 8100
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:45 am
Location: San Francisco

Numbers numbers number....an educational post for a beginner

#2 Post by Ron LaDow »

Rick,

"So we have in front of us a used/driver '62-'63 coupe. We want to
look for "matching numbers" to see if the
chassis/engine/color/interior are what they should be for
originality. Where do we look?
I believe the chassis and paint numbers should be on a plate on the
door hinge post if I'm not mistaken?
How does one verify whether the engine is original to the car and
whether the interior color is original?"

The plate on the hinge cover (assuming it hasn't been altered) will show chassis number and paint color for most cars. Other than that, you need to get a Certificate of Originality to determine much else, and they are problematic in their accuracy.
Thanks,
Ron LaDow

Post generated using Mail2Forum via email.
Ron LaDow
www.precisionmatters.biz

User avatar
Alex Mestas
356 Fan
Posts: 1128
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:02 pm
Tag: It’s only a hobby.
Location: Southern California

Numbers, Numbers, Numbers.

#3 Post by Alex Mestas »

1963 356 T-6 Coupe Signal Red.
1973.5 911 T Coupe Ivory.
1989 911 Carrera Targa Grd Prix White.

User avatar
Alex Mestas
356 Fan
Posts: 1128
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:02 pm
Tag: It’s only a hobby.
Location: Southern California

Numbers, Numbers, Numbers.

#4 Post by Alex Mestas »

Rick:
Last month Tom Farnam had a great Porsche 356 Reference Library List
dated March 31, 2008. In it he inlcuded the following:

Original Engine? A useful site is Eleven Parts AG in Switzerland, http://www.elevenparts.com/ which will give you the engine number which was originally sold with your chassis. All you have to do is click on the "Karroserie" badge, fill in the data and they will reply with an email The Registry tech section includes a listing of vehicles which is searchable by engine or chassis number, but Eleven has access to the original Porsche factory Kardex data, which is no longer available in the USA. (Porsche Cars North America, usually referred to on 356 Talk as PCNA, refuses to release the original Kardex, instead claiming privacy issues and selling a "translation" known as the Certificate of Authenticity, expensive but often inaccurate.

I would not waste my money on a COA as they are expensive and most often times inaccurate.
1963 356 T-6 Coupe Signal Red.
1973.5 911 T Coupe Ivory.
1989 911 Carrera Targa Grd Prix White.

User avatar
Barry Brisco
356 Fan
Posts: 3977
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:41 pm
Tag: Porsche enthusiast
Location: San Francisco
Contact:

and the COA...

#5 Post by Barry Brisco »

Rick,

Alex Mestas posted some very relevant links, and I would also recommend you read this one:

http://www.356registry.org/Tech/kardex.html
Barry Brisco
1959 356A Coupe 105553, Ivory / Brown
2009 987 Cayman, Carrera White / Beige (daily driver)

User avatar
Michael Doyle
356 Fan
Posts: 511
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:20 pm
Location: Ventura, CA

Numbers numbers number....an educational post for a beginner

#6 Post by Michael Doyle »

Hi Barry,

Why does your reply not contain the subject matter of what your comments relate to anymore? The prior Talk List format would allow that to be followed....but now, I don'y know what you are talking about .......?

=MD=


Barry Brisco <t2coupe@totheweb.com> wrote:
Rick,

Alex Mestas posted some very relevant links, and I would also recommend you read this one:

http://www.356registry.org/Tech/kardex.html

------------------------
Barry Lee Brisco
59 A coupe 105553
San Mateo, California
Registry Member #16465






Post generated using Mail2Forum via email.

Peter Poulikakos
356 Fan
Posts: 125
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:09 am
Location: Sydney Australia

Re: Numbers, Numbers, Numbers.

#7 Post by Peter Poulikakos »

Alex Mestas wrote:Rick:
Last month Tom Farnam had a great Porsche 356 Reference Library List
dated March 31, 2008. In it he inlcuded the following:

Original Engine? A useful site is Eleven Parts AG in Switzerland, http://www.elevenparts.com/ which will give you the engine number which was originally sold with your chassis. All you have to do is click on the "Karroserie" badge, fill in the data and they will reply with an email The Registry tech section includes a listing of vehicles which is searchable by engine or chassis number, but Eleven has access to the original Porsche factory Kardex data, which is no longer available in the USA. (Porsche Cars North America, usually referred to on 356 Talk as PCNA, refuses to release the original Kardex, instead claiming privacy issues and selling a "translation" known as the Certificate of Authenticity, expensive but often inaccurate.

I would not waste my money on a COA as they are expensive and most often times inaccurate.
So who has my engine 74535 :?: :(

Post Reply