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Heron Gray reproduction

#1 Post by A Collaud » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:48 am

Hi,
My bodyshop is looking for the right "Heron Gray" to paint my 356 BT6 as closed as original. The original code is 6207 or R739 (reutter)
I understand that is quite complex to reproduce the color using modern paint (I'm in France, without 356 Heron gray around me)

I've found this code :
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and also this combination :
Heron (6207)
97.8 1051 white
1.4 1052 black
0.8 1053 ocher

what do you recommend ?

Thank you for your support toward full matching project :D

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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#2 Post by James Davies » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:30 am

Glasurit has mixes for this color in all their lines, 22, 55 and 90. It is listed under "Reihergrau".

But like all mixes with modern pigments, one needs to spray them out and then compare to original paint in a protected area of your own car (or sister car). And make sure that paint has been cut/polished. Hopefully you didn't remove all the original paint from your car.

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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#3 Post by Rudy Bernhard » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:54 am

Try the color that is available for the 2009 production of 911s. Is is paint option Z98, Heron Grey. It is a modern color and is easy to obtain. I used PPG Envirobase High Performance. I found it to be an exact match for the original color under my dash pad and glove box on my 63 coupe (T6B). I used that color, and was much pleased. It makes sense that the factory would get a good match when reintroducing an old color. Your restorer can obtain a small sample to compare with the protected area paint you wish to match. When we put the sample on the area under the dash pad, and dried it, you could not tell which was original, and which was the sample. I am not sure if all years of production of Heron Grey are the same color from the factory. Some older model 356s seemed to match a darker shade.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#4 Post by A Collaud » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:28 am

I've ordered and tried 2 set of colors "6207" Reihergrau, 1 from Spies Hecker and the other from Glasurit and the result is ... surprising

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And now I'm lost. I don't really like both colors, one is too gray, the other too yellow
A member is sending me aPPG example so I will compare
I've also ordered the PPG here in France (not sure it will the same tone as the example he is sending me) and one other from Autocolors
I don't find the Z98

to be continued

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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#5 Post by A Collaud » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:10 pm

I tested the three colors on large metal sheet, here is the result (tge weather is bad, no sun)
Glasurit on the left, PGG in middle and SPies Hecher on the right

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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#6 Post by max handley » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:07 pm

For my eyes the sample on the far right is close.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#7 Post by John Brooks » Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:30 pm

Its been a few years but yes the one on the right. The original Grey has a beige tinge to it is direct sunlight
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#8 Post by Ned Hamlin » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:29 pm

max handley wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:07 pm
For my eyes the sample on the far right is close.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#9 Post by Rudy Bernhard » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:22 am

The heron grey will be very different in direct sunlight vs shade vs clouds vs artificial light. Pick the best for all conditions. If i remember, my ppg had only a little black tint added, no other color. It looks to have a very slight green tinge under clouds, but under sun has no colors other than the slight grey. It goes well with the oatmeal carpet and light brown interior. I get a lot of complements.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#10 Post by Martin Benade » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:08 am

There was a Mini color 5-10 years ago that I thought was very close. You might look into it. The best Ruby Red I found was a 2001 Audi color, it’s on my car and looks correct.

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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#11 Post by Roy Smalley » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:41 am

Painted three weeks ago. 63 Heron Grey. This matched the original color on dash where covered as close as one can get.

Reminder. View in indirect, natural light any sample for the true color. All samples should be painted using the same process from metal up to be accurate.
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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#12 Post by Martin Benade » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:48 am

And remember that our cars are noted for leaving the factory in various shades which gives some leeway in choosing the one that looks right to you.

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Re: Heron Gray reproduction

#13 Post by A Collaud » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:21 am

Thank you, all these cars are very nice and I definitely like this Heron Gray
I beleive that I will go with Spies Hecker 6207 ...

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