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Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:41 pm
by Peter Trill
Hoping someone can help, I have an original Chrome Leitz luggage rack for my 356c. Trouble is, it doesn’t fit! The brackets on the rack do line up perfectly with the mounting brackets that were built into the engine lid but the right hand grill is in the way. The left hand grill seems ok with the fixing tubes passing centrally through a gap in the grill fins where as there is a fin in the grill clashing bang in the middle of the fixings position.

I’ve scoured the internet and seen pictures where it looks like the grill on the right has been bent to one side to allow the fixing to fit but surely this isn’t what you’re supposed to do!! I’m thinking of buying a second grill for that side of the engine and butchering it so I can use it but before I do so I thought I’d reach out to all you clever 356ers and see if anyone else has had the same problem and better still come up with a solution??

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:37 pm
by Mike Wilson
I haven't had that problem with my rack or grills. Can you post a pic of the grill? Is it an original grill?

Mike

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:16 am
by Peter Trill
Thanks Mike,

After writing
My post I found another thread which suggest i’m Not alone with this problem.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43538

My Leitz rack is definitely for the T6 twin grill cars, in fact it’s drilled and tapped for both single grill deck deck lids.

The article above suggests that right hand mounts in the deck
Lid aren’t always in the right position. Maybe that’s a tolerance issue when they left the factory

I’ll maybe take you up on cross checking my rack size, I’m
Only 30 miles away in Kent so will take a drive in the car with the fabulous engine you guys built and then we can see if it’s the rack or the deck lid?

Cheer

Pete

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 am
by Mike Wilson
Thanks for the link to the thread. Seems like maybe some deck lids were fabricated just a tad off.

Mike

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:29 pm
by Steve Douglas
I have one of the new Reutter racks and it doesn't fit the deck lid either. Closer fit on T-6 cars, but still have to bend things a bit, on single grill cars it off by 1/2" vertically and one is 3/8 to left. I've tried on more than one car. My old Letz and Ruetter racks bolt right on.

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:17 am
by Ron LaDow
Having had racks on T6s since the early '70s, it's been a crap-shoot. In some cases, a find needs to be bent out of the way, others not.
Somewhat surprising, since the racks were factory options, but...

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:31 am
by Brad Ripley
We made the reproduction racks with bolt locations according to the illustration below. This was after measuring several cars and also original racks.

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:03 pm
by Dave Wildrick
Peter Trill wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:41 pm
I'm sure no one cares at this point, but as an editor/writer, I'm compelled to point out that the correct name is "Lietz" not "Leitz."
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Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:09 pm
by Steve Hatfield
Make sure the grille is mounted with the surround seam at the 6 o’clock and if you know the grille had been disassembled for resto then perhaps they have been put back together wrong.

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:22 pm
by Peter Trill
Thank you both for your comments. I’ve given myself detention for the miss spelling, 😉 😂.

I’ve kind of got to the bottom of it (possibly) the right hand bracket does seem to occasionally be a little of centre the fix seems to be to use clamps to press it slowly back into alignment. Not yet tried this but it’s on the list for the winter

Thanks

P

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:24 pm
by Mike Wilson
I'm guessing the upper right bracket is off a bit just like on my friend's '62 coupe.

Mike

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 am
by Craig Colaluca
Hello. Resurrecting this old tread. I’m selling my rack and I’ve been asked if it is original or reproduction. I don’t know the answer to that. It was on the car I purchased and I won’t be using it.
Thanks for any advice.

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:52 am
by Steve Hatfield
If it’s chrome plated, it’s probably original (but may have been replated.
Otherwise, if it’s stainless, prob a copy

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:59 am
by Mike Wilson
+1 on Steve's assessment.

Mike

Re: Leitz Luggage rack - Right hand engine grill in the way

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:59 pm
by Brad Ripley
Early reproductions were steel, chrome plated. Many more repros were polished stainless steel, including the current product see http://www.nlaparts.com/store/lietz-lug ... -1664.html