Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
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Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
Hello All: Hope you are having a great 4th of July Holiday. My car is a 1963 B(T6) normal. Motor rebuilt 30k miles ago and I am running Weber 40 carbs with a 050 distributor. I am in the process of trying a tank of non-ethanol just out of curiosity to see if there is any difference in performance. Anything I should be wary of going down this road? Thanks. Jim
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
It may run a little rich if it was tuned to run on 10% ethanol. Look for back smoke on acceleration.
If I had known I would live this long I would have pushed the envelope a little harder.
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
Jim, we have marine (or 'clear') 92 oct, non-ethanol gas moderately available and it is legal to use in vintage cars. It is approx $1 per gal more than Regular gas. No issues at all with its use over the last 15 years. Added advantage is that I can pump it myself whereas it isn't legal to do so with the other fuels. I don't think there is any performance advantage except maybe a little better MPG. I value its use in order to avoid any potential ethanol-related problems during extended storage intervals.
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
Jim, I have tried ethanol 10% in my 55 speedster here in eastern Oregon and had problems with it boiling (vapor locking) when the weather got above the mid 80's. This would happen mainly when I would drive 15 or 20 miles and then pull in some where park and then come back out and try starting it and find the fuel had boiled out and car didn't want to start, some times it would stumble and spit when leaving a stop sigh or accelerating. I switched to non ethanol fuel and have not had a problem. the other thing is make sure any rubber fuel lines you have are rated for ethanol fuel and also ethanol is hard on the older rubber gaskets your fuel system may have. oh my carbs are Zenith 32NDIX , when Oregon first went to ethanol blend fuel we had a lot of trouble with fuel systems in are older vehicles and lawn equipment. Good luck with trying it but I would stick with non ethanol if you can in your state.
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
(Tongue in cheek) Jim, does your trying non-alcohol fuel have anything to do with your namesake's distillery losing those 45,000 barrels of fine Jim Beam???
Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.....
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
George, I am having almost the same problem. When I have driven my 356A 10 miles or so, and temps are in the upper 70’s or higher. If I park the car, I can usually start it, but she will only go about 1/4 mile before using all fuel available. I have to wait about an hour (usually on the side of the road) before she will start again. We are at 8,000 to 9,000 ft elevation and unfortunately don’t have access to non-ethanol fuels.
I hate that I can’t really drive the car anywhere without spending at least an hour there.
Anyone have ideas or suggestions to remedy this problem?
I hate that I can’t really drive the car anywhere without spending at least an hour there.
Anyone have ideas or suggestions to remedy this problem?
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
Linda,
My suggestion is to install an electric pump in the footwell (under the toe board) to refill the floats after the fuel boils away and to push through vapor locks. I live at about 3200 feet and have access to non-ethanol fuel, so haven't experienced this, but this solution has worked for friends of mine. I certainly remember 50's vehicles with vapor lock problems in hot weather after parking and an electric fuel pump was the answer.
I got my pump and 3 position switch from Zim's.
My suggestion is to install an electric pump in the footwell (under the toe board) to refill the floats after the fuel boils away and to push through vapor locks. I live at about 3200 feet and have access to non-ethanol fuel, so haven't experienced this, but this solution has worked for friends of mine. I certainly remember 50's vehicles with vapor lock problems in hot weather after parking and an electric fuel pump was the answer.
I got my pump and 3 position switch from Zim's.
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
Linda, I carried a bottle of water and would pour it on the fuel pump and steel fuel line, this would solve my problem so i didn't have to wait for the fuel to cool. Seeimg how you don't have non ethanol fuel available I would do what Spike recommended. The electric fuel pump pushing fuel in stead of sucking the fuel from the tank will solve your problem. with the high engine compartment of are newer cars would have this same problem if it wasn't for the fact the fuel pump is in the tank. Good luck solving the problem.
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
Depending upon the model of your car, I'd put the electric fuel pump in the foot well of cars with the petcock inside the car in the passenger side footwell and if under the car, on the right side diagonal. That way, the routing of the fuel hoses is easier with minimal cutting of holes for them.
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Re: Trying a tank of non-ethanol gas
I own and sell non oxy 91 at my stores.
All small engines to include are little engines enjoy a non ethanol fuel. No build up of gunk to plug jets etc.
Yes, tuned properly , they do burn a little rich. Better than too lean
Kenny
All small engines to include are little engines enjoy a non ethanol fuel. No build up of gunk to plug jets etc.
Yes, tuned properly , they do burn a little rich. Better than too lean
Kenny