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Documenting Our Precious Cars

#1 Post by Steve Hatfield » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:48 am

Recently, Brad Ridley in a NLA email ad outlined new provisions by PNA (at an increased cost) to gain official confirmation of an individual car, similar to but replacing the CoA process and detail.

Has the Registry made any announcement or comment to the membership regarding this change?
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#2 Post by Adam Wright » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:33 am

Lots of discussion on the new program here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47972&p=333694&hilit=CTC#p333694
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#3 Post by Steve Hatfield » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:13 am

Thank you Adam
But unless one had previously applied for (@$100 or so) a CoA or was fortunate to come upon a Kardex or least likely, have an original sales document, validation of original engine, transmission and various body panels alongside chassis number is no longer possible and hence disadvantaging new collectors, custodians, enthusiasts who are the future of our hobby.
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#4 Post by David Jones » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:36 am

Is this something that has been dictated by Porsche factory management or is this a USA thing to make more money. Can one still get the Kardex in Europe?
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#5 Post by Wes Bender » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:50 pm

Copies of the Kardex are available. Search for "Kardex" to find a source. Check with David Pateman.
The COA went from "OK", to "somewhat unreliable due to errors" to where it is now, "expensive and NWS".
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#6 Post by Doug McDonnell » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:26 pm

Steve While I had a COA I recently got the Kardex for my car. Just because I figured it might be more difficult in the future. So any future owner of my car will have the info. The benefit to me getting the Kardex is I now know it was imported by Brumos and I have the name of the 1st owner.
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#7 Post by Steve Hatfield » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:21 pm

Doug
Thanks for inputting
I agree. I have a kardex and am quite satisfied with it. I am concerned for the future of this pastime and am disheartened by the recent changes to the means we have as a group to research the heritage of these cars. It seems forces are against us.
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#8 Post by Steve Hatfield » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:48 pm

The current BaT 356 listing is an example of the new documentation now offered by PNA. No engine number offered!
What good is that?
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#9 Post by Mervyn Hyde » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:46 pm

More than happy with the excellent detail in the Kardex I obtained for my BT6. Porsche Australia give almost nothing away, that you don't already know. I was also able to find original sales information and dealer-factory documentation from a third party.
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#10 Post by George Hussey » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:12 pm

as long as we can still get copies of the Kardex, I really could care less if Porsche now is deleting engine and trans numbers on their silly glossy tell-you-nothing certificate. Too bad they are doing this, but it is long known that many of the certificates came across incorrectly. I just discovered one on a certificate Brad signed years ago when someone called saying that I had their engine!!
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#11 Post by David Pateman » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:59 pm

I have put the data from over 330 356 Kardex into a spreadsheet so that I can see the progression of various details. Hoffman was pretty bad at keeping the records.
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#12 Post by George Hussey » Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:28 pm

Certainly the Kardex tells it all, and although not glossy, is the best information one can get on the cars. By the way, Porsche Germany is much more able to get info than Porsche Cars North America. Just had an issue with an older 911 (I knew the issue before purchase) and even though I knew people here at PCNA here in Atlanta, they were not much help at all. Porsche Germany came though even though I had to go through channels and did not know anyone over there (had my German Porsche buddy call for me)

I have kardex papers for all five of my 356 models now (thank you J!) and although written in their original sloppy writing and notes LOVE them
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#13 Post by Tim Brillon » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:18 am

Can someone tell me who to contact for getting a Kardex?

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Re: Documenting Our Precious Cars

#14 Post by Doug McDonnell » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 am

David Pateman See his comment above and email him through Registry. Just click on the contact icon in his entry.
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