Greg’s 65 356

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Greg’s 65 356

#1 Post by Rusty Ferrell » Fri May 17, 2019 3:59 pm

Installed engine with new Magnaflow muffler sold by Stoddard.
Some issues with install, alignment of exhaust manifolds, carb heater transfer tubes interference with exhaust and can’t be installed without a good bit of metal work. Rear bumper had to be fully removed for the exhaust to go through the overrides tubes.
Good news however there is plenty of clearance for the PreMat full flow filter.
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Re: Greg’s 65 356

#2 Post by Tim Berardelli » Fri May 17, 2019 5:54 pm

Rusty,

"A good bit of metal work" - can you elaborate?

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Re: Greg’s 65 356

#3 Post by Martin Benade » Fri May 17, 2019 7:01 pm

Would you buy another one? Sound good , or like a dune buggy?

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#4 Post by Jim Liberty » Fri May 17, 2019 7:30 pm

I've found that every time I deviate from "Factory", which is quite often, there is always extra work involved. Usually worth it. ……………..Jim.
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#5 Post by Ron LaDow » Fri May 17, 2019 7:58 pm

Jim Liberty wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 7:30 pm
I've found that every time I deviate from "Factory", which is quite often, there is always extra work involved. Usually worth it. ……………..Jim.
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The more you change, he more you have to change...
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#6 Post by Jim Liberty » Fri May 17, 2019 9:05 pm

Ron, oh so true. But, usually worth it. I am "Fiddling" with an Abarth Double Bubble. You can't imagine the trouble I'm having with wheels and tires. Italy is my only help with both. All that for disc brakes on the front. Jim.
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Re: Greg’s 65 356

#7 Post by Ron LaDow » Sat May 18, 2019 12:59 am

Jim,
The J C Whitney "universal" floor shifter was guaranteed to not fit your car pretty much the way it didn't fit the other cars.
(This is in no way is intended to compare J C Whitney to Stoddard/NLA et al. Comparing J C W to someone else is difficult)
Rusty,
WIH is the finish on the sump plate?
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#8 Post by Martin Benade » Sat May 18, 2019 10:20 am

Ron, "Comparing J C W to someone else is difficult". I like that!

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Re: Greg’s 65 356

#9 Post by Greg Carter » Sat May 18, 2019 2:27 pm

Mr. LaDow,

The finish on the sump plate is paint (Duplicolor engine enamel semi-gloss black).

I also painted the heat shield on the FF pump to “hide” it somewhat.

As far as sound, it sounds pretty good. A little louder than stock and more aggressive sounding.

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Re: Greg’s 65 356

#10 Post by Al Zim » Sat May 18, 2019 3:48 pm

I have never had the opportunity to view one of these exhaust systems. From the picture I can see that it is not like the Burch where the exhaust pipe lengthen is similar on all cylinders. I deduced from your comments that the bumper and the exhaust system need to be removed in order to remove the engine is this correct? Since the exhaust does not need to scavenger itself at the normal running of the 356 engine 3500-4000 rpm and pipes are not of equal length It seem like the only thing this exhaust system provides is NOISE. It seem to me that this could have been easier to accomplish with a drill and a hole saw to attack your old muffler. Porsche engineered their vehicles that made them fun to drive and durable If something were to be gained through a muffler system, certainly by the onset of the T-6 cars this would have been developed. They did a lot of racing with 356 derivative vehicles which gave them insight into car building. My final observation is the sump plate that has a drain plug in it. WHY? the engine already has a drain plug. If I remember correctly (and that was a long time ago) only the two (2) piece case engines did not have an oil drain plug in the case. As you all are pepping up your 356 remember front end design originated before 1939. Very few shops have the fixtures to determine if your parts are withing specification! You cannot assume that the parts you purchase will be. One of the common front end parts currently sold will cause excessive wear in a short period of time. al zim 2019/05/18 Zim's Autotechnik 800.356.2964
 

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Re: Greg’s 65 356

#11 Post by Greg Carter » Sat May 18, 2019 6:07 pm

The metal work Rusty mentioned has to do with the exhaust headers as they exit #2 and #4 cylinders. They needed to be more S shaped than L shaped to allow the carb heat riser tubes to drop in between the exhaust pipes and the cylinder heads. There’s not enough room for them to drop in so you can’t have carb pre-heat if you want / need it without modifying the muffler or making some custom pre-heat tubes.

As for as buying another, I like the louder sound than a stock muffler but haven’t had it on long enough to decide.

Greg

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