Wideband A/F results

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Re: Wideband A/F results

#16 Post by Olivier Auvray »

C J Murray wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:37 am
Martin Benade wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:43 am This is more of a question about dyno useage- could you hold it at say 3600 rpm and 2/3 throttle steady state, and adjust the jetting for that condition? I realize if this is possible, all you would have to do is then adjust an infinite number of points to a moving target until it was good.
Yes, with an eddy currant type dyno that would hold a certain amount of resistance against the engine. Even still road testing is needed to get the best result. I was told by the head of the Chevy performance division John Heinrency that even with the equipment they have that the car will not perform its best until adjustments are made based on road tests. He said the engine mapping is the most challenging and time consuming aspect of a new model.

The reason old cars are easier is because they can't be made to be anywhere near perfect. They must be made safe at WOT and then the other settings only need to be good enough to have the car drive ok. Lean settings cause very rough running but rich settings have to be extreme to be felt.

Modern cars are mapped in the computer for every tiny difference in throttle opening, rpm, and load. Both fuel and ignition are adjusted up and down constantly. This is why modern engines perform so well and last so long.
Regarding your words about the Chevy Performane Division, you can do something accurate (or near) with a vacuum gauge. You drive your car, for example, at 3000 rpm on third gear and you check the vacuum in the intake of your engine.
Next step, on the dyno, you load it until you find the same vacuum in the same condition (3000 rpm / third gear in my example).
Can I bore you, one more time, with Peugeot? Every prototype engine was tested on the dyno, on the chassis dyno and on the street/test track.......... a time consumming job!

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Re: Wideband A/F results

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Peugeot, the guys that snagged the 901 name? :P
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Yup, it's actually a Porsche 895 rather than a 911. ...and we're driving 350s but don't tell anyone.
Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.....

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Re: Wideband A/F results

#19 Post by Olivier Auvray »

Martin Benade wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:19 pm Peugeot, the guys that snagged the 901 name? :P
Peugeot, the guys who won Indianapolis in 1913, Pikes Peak in 1988/1989/2013.......... sometime we had the pleasure to "kick the ass" of american racers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVGlCnWoMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS73N7vHRHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y20CLumT2Sg



Regarding the story of Porsche and the 901:
Peugeot had the patent for the "0" in the middle of the number but they didn't say anything to Bristol (401/402/403/404/405/406/409) or BMW (507).
They sued Porsche only because one ingeneer from Peugeot died during the second world war in Wolfsburg (forced labour).

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