Single Stage Euro thane vs Base Coat Clear Coat

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Single Stage Euro thane vs Base Coat Clear Coat

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My car was restored in 2006 and painted with a Glasurit 5707 in a single stage euro thane paint. The former owner had no reason for this only to say he just chose the color the shop picked the paint.
I figured that the single stage paint gives the car more of an "old school" vintage look. Is this true? I understand the base coat clear is easier to put on and repair. Other than expense, Why would someone choose single stage euro thane?

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Depending upon where you are located, you may not be able to have your car painted with single stage due to EPA regs. That said, I think some colors may show better with single stage than two-stage like silver metallic.

Overall, your painter probably has a preference and experience with single vs. two-stage and brand of paint.

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Single stage looks closer to the original paint, base clear has a thin appearance, it lacks the depth of single stage. Base clear is what new cars use.

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I still use Glasurit 22 line single stage. Polishes better and clear coats can flake if the booth is not hot enough after spraying the clear. It's easier to fix a scratch or chip in solid color paint.
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#5 Post by David Jones »

I used single stage urethane on my 64C because Sherwin Williams had the sky blue (6403) formula on file and a sample compared to the original paint was a perfect match. My "A" cars were painted with base/clear and do not look as good in my opinion.
I also believe that Glasurit and Sherwin Williams automotive paint division are part of the same conglomerate these days.
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Is it harder to lay down metallics with modern single stage and better results with base/clear?
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The metallics I have seen recently are two-stage and look great but Dan, John and David's comments are right on. I went with single stage slate gray because it looks more factory. I just have a personal issue with clear coats. How many modern cars have you seen with the clear coat wearing off and the car looks like crap?

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I am a fan of single stage for solid colors, but either type of urethane will look way too good. I think single stage can look very slightly better, but I am an expert and usually cannot tell the difference if the buffing was done superbly. As for metallics, you would have a very hard time finding a painter that can shoot single stage and have excellent results. It is very difficult and most anybody that could have done it is now 80 years old and out of practice. As for modern cars, sometimes there are problems, but done correctly the clear will not fade or peel. You will notice the 2% with trouble, but remember all the rest that look great with minimal care.
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My ruby red cab has one bumper clearcoated, rest of car single stage. You would never notice it.
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I recently went back and forth with my painter, he wanted base coat/clear coat, I said single stage. The customer is always right!
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Adam, I feel the same way, car looks great.

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Martin Benade wrote:As for metallics, you would have a very hard time finding a painter that can shoot single stage and have excellent results. It is very difficult and most anybody that could have done it is now 80 years old and out of practice.
This is very true, and is was true over 60 years ago as well. When Reutter switched to synthetic enamel paint for the 1956 model year, the factory painters were having all sorts of problems with the metallics. Aquamarine metallic was one of the most popular colors, and it was the one with the most problems. Many cars had to be stripped down and repainted at the Reutter factory. This cost Reutter lots of money, and Porsche was not happy. So for 1957, they got rid of all metallics except for Silver metallic.

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#13 Post by Jonathan Trichel »

Single Stage Glasurit 22 Royal Blue. iPhone picture. No filtering or editing. I think it’s deeper than clear.
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#14 Post by Bruce Smith »

These are all single stage, including the Chevy. To me, base/clear is hard to get right for a vintage car. Too much clear and the gloss is too high and shallow. I sold my '67 MGB GT which had an exceptional base/clear paint job. I never cared for the way it looked.
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Here's the '67 MGT GT. I think the difference between base/clear and single stage can be picked up by comparing the photos. The gloss in the MG is very nice but way too much with probably excessive clear applied. It sold on BAT for a huge price and I'm sure the shiny paint had a lot to do with it. So it's a matter of personal preference.
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