The 356 coming to an end or just beginning?

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The 356 coming to an end or just beginning?

#1 Post by John Lindstrom » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:30 am

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#2 Post by David Jones » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:45 am

Neither John. It is just another replica which loses all the character of the 356 and even more than it would with a VW engine. No way would anyone with a genuine respect for the 356 be satisfied with this. My 60 hp 59 cabrio is infinitely more satisfying to drive even with all it's almost 60 year old quirks than any replica. I say it again, not a beginning of anything, just another replica.
I do applaud them for making it but I doubt many will get built and it will probably only make the price of original open 356's rise even more.
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#3 Post by Adam Wright » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:14 pm

Yeah, just another soul-less replica, they aren't special if you can order a new one tomorrow. The only good thing about all the replica's out there is it's at least something interesting on the road, nothing interesting about most cars on the road today.
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#4 Post by John Lindstrom » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:34 pm

At least this is better than the soulless Tesla. I hate the Tesla with a passion. Especially because I know the folks behind the curtain. What a scam!

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#5 Post by Adam Wright » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:52 pm

John Lindstrom wrote:At least this is better than the soulless Tesla. I hate the Tesla with a passion. Especially because I know the folks behind the curtain. What a scam!
They sure are popular in the bay area and Nor Cal, I've never seen so many Tesla's than I have in the last week.

But I did have a cool chance happening out here. I was out this way in a tiny town 8 years ago buying Porsches and parts, and I saw the Mystery Machine, aka the Scooby mobile. I mentioned it to the kids and my son spotted it again, what are the odds!
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#6 Post by Larry Brooks » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:28 pm

John Lindstrom wrote:At least this is better than the soulless Tesla. I hate the Tesla with a passion. Especially because I know the folks behind the curtain. What a scam!

Do you suppose that is the same things our great grand parents said a century ago when cars became more and more popular? Like it or not, combustion engined cars will go the same way as old Nellie and the buggy. Virtually every car manufacturer, including Porsche, understands what the future portends and is moving that direction as quickly as possible.

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#7 Post by David Jones » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:34 pm

Larry, you are correct and I am all for electric power in the future but I cannot accept an electric battery powered replica Porsche 356 than I could a replica Spitfire or Mustang powered by an electric motor. The sound of the Porsche flat four is as much a part of the car as would be a RR Merlin in the aircraft. That surely is an unarguable statement.
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#8 Post by Larry Brooks » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:13 pm

I agree on the replicas being kind of silly for the most part, but anyone who has driven a Tesla hard in the Ludicrous mode can see the handwriting on the wall. Performance got Porsche out of the gates decades ago and that formula still applies. Like Tesla or not, their cars are phenomenal.

We all had to adjust decades ago when most soccer moms in a minivan could blow our doors off. Now 911's, Ferrari's, Lambo's, etc are facing the new reality when a Tesla S pulls up along side them at a light.

Our 356's are still as fun as ever, but we are in a different world around us.

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#9 Post by John Lindstrom » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:41 pm

Everybody I know drives a brand spanking new 1 ton 4 wheel drive crew cab duality with extra everything on it. Nobody that I know would be seen dead in a Tesla or any other electric car. Car manufacturers continue to give people what they want. The elite may want us to all drive computerized electric cars in the future to allow them even more control and surveillance capability, but there will always be gas and diesel powered vehicles for heavy construction, mining, etc. Recent technology, specifically Solar, has made off the grid living feasible as well as electric vehicles in some areas, allowing those who choose to drive right by the gas station every day. I personally have 2 solar systems that I absolutely love. I can see that the day could arrive, if they ever do actually improve batteries significantly, that more and more older vehicles convert to electric generative motors. From a Physics point of view it does kind of sort of make sense.

The mystery machine could carry a lot of batteries!

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#10 Post by Mike Wilson » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:27 pm

There will always be those exploring alternative power plants whether they be steam, gasoline, diesel, electric or hybrid and chasing horsepower and torque with increased cc's and/or adapted 911 engines. Keep in mind Porsche's Loehner and the one that just kicked butt at the 'Ring. People will try to apply modern technology to achieve the desired goal.

We've talked about replicas before. For some, they are an affordable alternate to a real 356. At some point, they may be able to purchase a restored 356 or have the funds to restore one. They are no less enthusiastic about the marque and no replica owner I've ever talked to has tried to pawn it off as a real 356.

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#11 Post by Emil Wojcik » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:01 pm

At least it has Intermeccanica badging, although I'll bet most of them ending up with Speedster script and Porsche logos in the end.
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#12 Post by Mike Wilson » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 pm

Or one of those "wide bodied" monstrosities!

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#13 Post by John Lindstrom » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:32 pm

Yikes!

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#14 Post by David Nicholls » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:39 pm

When the latest version of the Boxster was launched in Australia, one of the official Porsche dealers here in Sydney asked me if they could use my McRae Spyder in their showroom, to help them promote the new vehicle.
They must have liked it, I couldn't care.

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#15 Post by Ron LaDow » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:32 am

Mike Wilson wrote:...no replica owner I've ever talked to has tried to pawn it off as a real 356.
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