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Re: Morning Ouch

#46 Post by Jim Liberty » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:59 pm

Vic, I'll hole 'em, you smack there heads together. The both of you are sounding like "Grumpy Jim".
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#47 Post by jim nelson » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:49 pm

Jim Liberty wrote:Vic, I'll hole 'em, you smack there heads together. The both of you are sounding like "Grumpy Jim".
You mean, me??

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Re: Morning Ouch

#48 Post by C J Murray » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:17 am

jim nelson wrote:
Jim Liberty wrote:Vic, I'll hole 'em, you smack there heads together. The both of you are sounding like "Grumpy Jim".
You mean, me??
At least they didn't call you "Snobby Jim". :P
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#49 Post by Charles H Jacobus » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:53 am

Lovely, wish I owned it salvage or not.

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#50 Post by Jim Liberty » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:08 pm

You guys know, I am the original "Mr. Grumpy" not you.
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Re: Morning Ouch

#51 Post by Erik Thomas » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:20 pm

Some guy in Poland has a completely hand fabricated brand spanking new 356 body assembly already made and waiting. He is going to swap over the mechanicals, and a few other parts, and have a numbers matching car. ( hopefully )

You can purchase a brand new MGB-GT body shell assembly. Why is it not done for 356's?

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#52 Post by Adam Wright » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:50 pm

Erik Thomas wrote:Some guy in Poland has a completely hand fabricated brand spanking new 356 body assembly already made and waiting. He is going to swap over the mechanicals, and a few other parts, and have a numbers matching car. ( hopefully )

You can purchase a brand new MGB-GT body shell assembly. Why is it not done for 356's?
Dynacorn has done it with Mustang's and a bunch of other American cars. I know there are a couple of people working on long hood 911 bodies. Haven't heard of anyone who has done it with a 356.
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Re: Morning Ouch

#53 Post by Greg Bryan » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:17 pm

I was talking with one of the sheet metal replacement venders at last year's Lit Meet in LA saying I'm surprised that no one has yet produced an all steel Speedster body 'kit car'. He said, "It's coming."
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#54 Post by Martin Benade » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:27 pm

That could be a very nice substitute for the real thing.

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#55 Post by Adam Wright » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:36 pm

Greg Bryan wrote:I was talking with one of the sheet metal replacement venders at last year's Lit Meet in LA saying I'm surprised that no one has yet produced an all steel Speedster body 'kit car'. He said, "It's coming."
That mean's I will have to put plexi over my "Wall of Dead Cars". Every time I have an open house someone tries to buy a hinge cover, "There's several Speedsters up there? How much?"
Nope, nope, nopity, nope, you can build a car off a hinge cover.
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Re: Morning Ouch

#56 Post by C J Murray » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:48 am

Daryle's car is at $3300 so I have two questions. Is his car worse than Adam's? What will be the "winning" price?
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#57 Post by Doug McDonnell » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:18 am

Trans not rebuildable and no engine so not really worth comparing to a numbers matching complete car. I doubt this current BAT "car" with break 5K. Nowhere near the figure Adam got.
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#58 Post by C J Murray » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:29 am

Correct Doug but if the engine and gearbox of the mud mobile were also buried in the mud they may have been just about as worthless. It just depends on their exposure to constant moisture. With mud up to the dashboard, well, who knows. Of course, maybe the engine was started up before the sale. Matching numbers, runs great?
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#59 Post by Adam Wright » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:17 pm

C J Murray wrote:Correct Doug but if the engine and gearbox of the mud mobile were also buried in the mud they may have been just about as worthless. It just depends on their exposure to constant moisture. With mud up to the dashboard, well, who knows. Of course, maybe the engine was started up before the sale. Matching numbers, runs great?
Cliff, before you throw out any more "guesses" on how I advertised my car, let me just list the ad as worded. You really need to get a new hobby man, this one is getting tiresome.

"Matching Numbers 1961 Porsche 356 B Coupe VIN 114729 Engine 604758
Here we have a car that is many things, one of which is very rusty. Actually to call this car rusty is an affront to rusty 356's everywhere, this car is rusty beyond belief. It was parked out back with a blown motor in 1976 and that's where I found it, where it was parked, outside, when Jimmy Carter was President. The irony is the motor that was blown was the original motor (See scan of Factory Kardex in pictures), which is still with the car, making this a matching numbers car. To add to the irony of the car is the title is dated 1961, so this may be a one owner matching numbers car, a true claim to fame! So after hundreds of hours of restoration you can say the words "numbers matching one owner 356" with a straight face. The other good news is the car looks fairly complete. The motor was dis-assembled but comes with several boxes of motor parts. The passenger seat is also included. The last piece of good news is the car is being offered at no reserve, so if you have more ambition than money and really want a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, this matching numbers car might make you a leprechaun! "
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Re: Morning Ouch

#60 Post by C J Murray » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:29 pm

So the motor was disassembled, that's much better than buried like a potato, unless the parts were stored inside the car which eventually became buried like a potato. Was the transmission not dissolved and "matching" to the Kardex? If so and the engine parts were usable then you represented the car fairly. That doesn't make the car worth $14k and the Leprechaun(cute touch) had better have started with an even bigger pot of gold if he wants to have any gold after the sale of his "matching numbers" T5 coupe. It's a loser. Only very special cars should be brought back to life once they get that bad.

Fool still applies in my opinion. That's what a forum is, opinions. When you have the courage of your convictions you tend not to be upset by opinions that differ from yours.

I have been looking for an article you wrote about an early 911S for sale down south that turned out to not be a 911S when you got there. Could you post the link to that here? I would be grateful.
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