Poll: Vote on what you would do to capture biggest interest.

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Re: Poll: Vote on what you would do to capture biggest inter

#16 Post by Emil Wojcik » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:34 am

I actually would agree with Martin and George except that the question was what to do for resale. I don't mind the flares but they will make it harder to sell.
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#17 Post by Jon Schmid » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:22 pm

Steve, I vote option #2. Emil, I can name one exception to the below from personal experience.
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#18 Post by Rhys and Karisa Haydon » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:53 am

I bet that years down the road when it comes time to sell you will have no problem finding a buyer. Even if the flares scare off some of the buyers I think you need to ask yourself if you care who owns the car next? If the flares break the sale then maybe it's not the right buyer anyway? Someone who is scared by the flares will also be taking the car back to the original color and going the full 9 yards. I don't have a vote, but do what makes you happy now and let the next guy figure out what makes him happy. For me, I am a young guy, so would be happy to have a Speedster even if it was two-toned, no top, wrong color, non-matching, blah blah blah.
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#19 Post by steve raucher » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:45 am

Thanks for chiming in everyone.
At a minimum, I will have the flares brought down. Perhaps a repaint at some point in time.
Should any competent body man be able to bring rear flares to original while retaining the thin metal bead that runs inside bottom of wheel well for originality?
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#20 Post by Rhys and Karisa Haydon » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:57 am

I would say that you need someone who has done 356 work before. Bad body work would scare me more than the flares.
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#21 Post by George Walling » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:04 pm

Steve make sure that you research the body man you pick to make sure they know what to do also find out how the flares were added to the body and if it will take a reconstruction of the rear fender area. There is several way to adding flares so be ware and good luck.
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#22 Post by Jon Schmid » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:29 pm

George Walling wrote: There is several way to adding flares so be ware and good luck.
My favorite was the method my uncle used so he could run wider tires on his Spyder: Roll a baseball bat between the tires and the aluminum fenders. Mind you, this was back in the early '60's when 550's weren't quite worth what they are today. :wink:

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#23 Post by steve raucher » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:58 pm

I know of a respected body and paint craftsman local to me. He says it's best to cut out the flared metal area and replace it with proper panel piece. Two used panels are about $2500,new it can push upwards of $5K,labor and paint is extra. Can anyone suggest any other local 356 body men between say San Francisco and San Jose, CA as I reside between these two points?
Just want a second or third opinion etc.
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#24 Post by Daniel Roman » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:12 am

Your car in its current state may appeal to more buyers who would rather save some money up front and then restore the car to their own personal taste. You could also have it appraised as-is and also what it may be worth if the fenders were restored to original spec and correct color paint. The appraisals may even help you sell the car as an added value to the buyer. They will have an idea of how much the vehicle's value would increase after restoration.
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#25 Post by steve raucher » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:28 am

Yes Roman,
I had car appraised about 1.5 years ago for X$, as an Outlaw Speedster.
Since then more $ has been spent bringing it back to decent show car away from outlaw.
I feel confident if I spend say $25-30K on body work and repaint to original, I could get back most if not all that cost and perhaps more.
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#26 Post by Rob Robinson » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:16 pm

It's a great looking car but I would get a well experienced 356 body guru to reshape the flares to stock and blend the old paint.Future owners will wanted to bare metal it anyway!

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#27 Post by steve raucher » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:11 pm

Thanks for all of your insight and opinions.
Can anyone confirm what year (s), model A I assume rear quarter panel I might use to graft over the cut out flares?
I know panels are made just want all options available as I know it will be hard to find Speedster panels.
Any help is appreciated. Also any body people want to chime in in regard to best method to do repair of flares?
Maybe a phone number or email sent my way to follow up myself with experienced 356 body man.
No way to save the stretched original metal flares? With grafted in proper metal from the inside would one feel the repair?
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#28 Post by Greg Bryan » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:16 am

I would be very careful who you select to do the metal work - as stated above, a poorly executed re-do of the fenders would be worse than what you have now ...
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#29 Post by Martin Benade » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:36 am

Somebody who is a real artist can make the graft pretty much invisible inside and out, but it will be very expensive to do at that level. Most people cannot do that. I am a reasonably talented bodyman with years of experience, and I couldn't do what you are talking about.

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Re: Poll: Vote on what you would do to capture biggest inter

#30 Post by Gordon White » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:48 am

I would get rid of the flares and save the paint.
You have a chrome strip to help with the paint blending plus being low on the body will help.

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