The Rudge Quest

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#31 Post by Trevor Gates » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:42 pm

Edwin - I don't know if Adam, exactly answered your question. The drum in his picture in the top left is the original Rudge drum, the other three are standard B drums that have been converted to Rudge style by having the Rudge Hub riveted to the drum and the lug bolt holes welded up. A VERY smart and economical thing to do! (Insert happy clapping emoji here) to Martin & Adam!

Ross - I have a set for sale right now, that could use a re-chroming if to be brought up to full Concours standards. My understanding is that the answer to your question is no, the wheels cannot be re-chromed without separating the centers from the barrel/hoop.
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#32 Post by Adam Wright » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:24 pm

Trevor Gates wrote:Edwin - I don't know if Adam, exactly answered your question. The drum in his picture in the top left is the original Rudge drum, the other three are standard B drums that have been converted to Rudge style by having the Rudge Hub riveted to the drum and the lug bolt holes welded up. A VERY smart and economical thing to do! (Insert happy clapping emoji here) to Martin & Adam!

Ross - I have a set for sale right now, that could use a re-chroming if to be brought up to full Concours standards. My understanding is that the answer to your question is no, the wheels cannot be re-chromed without separating the centers from the barrel/hoop.
Actually no, there are all 4 made out of standard drums. The two original ones I had were deemed un-usable. But they will make good wall hangings!
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#33 Post by Jules Dielen » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:33 pm

Ross if you need A rudge drums i can help. I have a set (originals, not repops). I also have other rudge spares with excellent original chrome and a bunch of NOS wheel hubs. (SHAMELESS plug)
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#34 Post by Brad Ripley » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:27 pm

Now that Jules broke the ice with a Shameless Plug ---- If you want a nice set (five wheels), I can help also. I have for sale a complete set all originals: wheels, drums, hubs, spinner nuts -- all in very good condition. In fact you can road test them! because they are all on a restored 1955 Continental Coupe - sun roof, Telefunken, Azure Blue, etc.; engine is an SC. You have to buy the car to get the wheels!

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#35 Post by Ross Copeland » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:45 pm

ThanksJules and Brad for your generous offers - I however already have the full set of drums , wheels , hubs and spinners

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#36 Post by Trevor Gates » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:04 pm

Adam Wright wrote:
Trevor Gates wrote:Edwin - I don't know if Adam, exactly answered your question. The drum in his picture in the top left is the original Rudge drum, the other three are standard B drums that have been converted to Rudge style by having the Rudge Hub riveted to the drum and the lug bolt holes welded up. A VERY smart and economical thing to do! (Insert happy clapping emoji here) to Martin & Adam!

Ross - I have a set for sale right now, that could use a re-chroming if to be brought up to full Concours standards. My understanding is that the answer to your question is no, the wheels cannot be re-chromed without separating the centers from the barrel/hoop.
Actually no, there are all 4 made out of standard drums. The two original ones I had were deemed un-usable. But they will make good wall hangings!
I didn't zoom in on the pic, now that I have I can see where he welded up the holes to the drum in the top left corner. Out of curiously, why didn't you have him mill the other three drums to match the top left one?

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#37 Post by Ross Copeland » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:14 pm

Trevor Gates wrote: Ross - I have a set for sale right now, that could use a re-chroming if to be brought up to full Concours standards. My understanding is that the answer to your question is no, the wheels cannot be re-chromed without separating the centers from the barrel/hoop.
So I have 3 options:
1) Rather than rechrome - paint them like the Rudges on early Merc Gullwings. ( Heresy?)
2) Rechrome- a local aviation engineering firm confirm they cold rivet aircraft wheels and could do this work on Rudges- but its not without risk. Expensive too
3) Do nothing- use them and enjoy them as is- patina seems to be the new "black" in classic car community .

OPtion 3 seems the sensible path forward :)

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#38 Post by Adam Wright » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:44 pm

Ross Copeland wrote:
Trevor Gates wrote: Ross - I have a set for sale right now, that could use a re-chroming if to be brought up to full Concours standards. My understanding is that the answer to your question is no, the wheels cannot be re-chromed without separating the centers from the barrel/hoop.
So I have 3 options:
1) Rather than rechrome - paint them like the Rudges on early Merc Gullwings. ( Heresy?)
2) Rechrome- a local aviation engineering firm confirm they cold rivet aircraft wheels and could do this work on Rudges- but its not without risk. Expensive too
3) Do nothing- use them and enjoy them as is- patina seems to be the new "black" in classic car community .

OPtion 3 seems the sensible path forward :)
I'm leaving mine un-restored. But painted they look nice. The last set I sold were painted when restored.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#39 Post by Edwin Ek » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:50 pm

What's up with Freddy? He hasn't been around here much.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#40 Post by Ross Copeland » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:50 pm

They look very cool in paint Adam- thanks for posting- wonder if 356 Rudges were ever painted in period to match body color - like Merc 300SLs

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#41 Post by Adam Wright » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:51 pm

I heard from him a few weeks ago.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#42 Post by Adam Wright » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:34 pm

So the wheels are on, just in time for the open house!
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#43 Post by Jules Dielen » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:18 pm

that looks good A!

Brad, do I get the wheels for free if i buy the 55???
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#44 Post by Edwin Ek » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:29 pm

Adam,

Congrats, they look sharp! Interested to hear your thoughts about the change in steering feel and handling with the Rudges.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#45 Post by Jules Dielen » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:57 pm

Yes, leave it to porsche to install the heaviest wheel they ever offered on race cars. 24lbs per.. and that does not include the hub
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