The Rudge Quest

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John Clarke
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#16 Post by John Clarke » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:16 pm

Your car looks great Vince.
These wheels are 'Knock Off' yes? Not familiar with the Rudges, but what stops them easily being knocked off?
That is stolen! being so valuable.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#17 Post by VinceFinaldi » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:54 pm

Thanks Dick!
John, nothing really. Just parking in the right spots and keeping an eye on her. Most people wouldn't know what they are really.

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#18 Post by Wil Mittelbach » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:18 pm

Question:-
Are Rudge wheels (or their facsimiles) for most 356 adaptations truly only for "bling" adornment - relative to race cars with quick change wheel/tire requirements - with no practical benefit relative to stock 356 wheels other than visual??

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#19 Post by Ron LaDow » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:08 am

Wil Mittelbach wrote:Question:-
Are Rudge wheels (or their facsimiles) for most 356 adaptations truly only for "bling" adornment - relative to race cars with quick change wheel/tire requirements - with no practical benefit relative to stock 356 wheels other than visual??
Wil, I am an absolute supporter of the market in any good; if the market values that higher (in money) than I do, I am wrong.
So to re-phrase your question:
1) Will those wheels improve the cornering ability of your 356? Absolutely not.
2) Would they have helped Porsche win races when they were introduced? Can't tell; takes some race analysis. The early '50s Blue Crown cars proved to the Indy crowd you could win races by avoiding pit stops with less horsepower; the Rudge wheels may have speeded up the Porsche pit stops enough to do the same.
3) Are they worth the money? Yes, they are. You may call it bling, but you paid far more for the diamond on your wife's ring than you do for the water you drink (economists' idiomatic example of "value").
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#20 Post by Wil Mittelbach » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:54 am

Ron -
Pls note my comment is in relation to 356 adornment, relative to race car quick wheel/tire exchange requirements during race competitions.
Carry on,
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#21 Post by Doug McDonnell » Mon May 08, 2017 5:38 pm

Anyone try the new reproductions? http://www.stoddard.com/644-68-010-set.html
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#22 Post by Adam Wright » Mon May 08, 2017 10:34 pm

Doug McDonnell wrote:Anyone try the new reproductions? http://www.stoddard.com/644-68-010-set.html
You still have to get drums made, which will set you back another $3000-5000. I haven't seen these up close but will probably check them out when I'm there for the swap meet on June 3rd, hope to see everyone there, Stoddard is a good swap.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#23 Post by Dick Roth » Thu May 11, 2017 6:03 pm

The Stoddard's look great, and I assume they come from the German company "German Rudge Wheels." I examined them closely in Anaheim two years ago, and they are spot on. Remember that all Factory Rudge wheels were chromed, but the painted ones are so much more understated (!) and cool looking, and the centers can be painted body color, which is beautiful too. Mercedes 300SL Rudge wheels were painted for the most part.

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Re: The Rudge Quest

#24 Post by Adam Wright » Thu May 11, 2017 7:31 pm

The work has begun, they are starting to look good again.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#25 Post by David Foster » Wed May 31, 2017 4:33 pm

To my mind the perforations around the rim look different to an original set ? Has any one compared them side by side ?

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#26 Post by Adam Wright » Wed May 31, 2017 5:35 pm

David Foster wrote:To my mind the perforations around the rim look different to an original set ? Has any one compared them side by side ?
Do you mean the reproductions?
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#27 Post by Adam Wright » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:55 am

I just got the drums back from Martin at The Machine Shop and they look great. Can't wait to get them on the car.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#28 Post by Edwin Ek » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:56 am

Adam, your drum in the top left corner is different than the other three. Is that a converted standard drum or ... ?
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#29 Post by Adam Wright » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:12 am

Edwin Ek wrote:Adam, your drum in the top left corner is different than the other three. Is that a converted standard drum or ... ?
All 4 were machined by Martin at The Machine Shop in Colorado. I had 3 original hubs but the drums were destroyed, so I sent him a huge pile of drums and he picked out the best ones to make into Rudge drums. The good news is it makes them essentially new, with all new hardware. I would prefer this over 60 year hardware and drums.
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Re: The Rudge Quest

#30 Post by Ross Copeland » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:31 pm

I have a set of 5 date 1958 matched Rudges. Owned them for 15 years and picked them up for not much money in the day and put them on my 56 speedster- they looked amazing and drive great. When the speedster was sold I had the good sense to keep the wheels. They are wearing original chrome which is pitted and discoloured. Ive had them crack tested and there are no issues. So I wish to get them on a car again. My conundrum is Id like to put them on a 59 Sunroof Im restoring to a high level. Can Rudges be rechromed without removing the cold rivets? I suspect not but welcome some advice. Ross

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