Door handle and lock diagram

[David Pettengell]

makes much more sense now, thanks

[Mike Wilson]

Glad to help and don't hesitate to get a hold of me if you need additional help.

[Peter Venuti]

I have a question I hope someone might be able to answer for me. The rubber seal shown in Brad's post above. Where exactly does it go and how does it fit. I assume its supposed to go on the outside of the lock slider about where I have it positioned in this photo. My issue is I don't see how its possible to get the seal into the receiver let alone with the slider.

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There's no groove I can see to accommodate such a beefy seal inside the door handle.

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The most space I have between the receiver and slider is this small o-ring and even this makes the slider very firm.

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Any advice greatly appreciated.

[Mike Wilson]

The black rubber seal goes in the groove of the exterior handle where the tumbler slides in. Heat it up with hot water or a heat gun to make it more pliable.

Mike

[Rick Albro]

There are quite a few posts on door handles and related topics... if you follow the links in the below post there are some really good descriptions on various aspects of door locks and related issues. Perhaps these and others should be summarized into a technical article for the reference section...

Pre A cars up to chassis # 55260 built on December 20 1955 used 54XX series lock codes.
Beginning of A series chassis numbers after 55260 used 75XX series codes until March of 57
From March of 57 until July 15, 1957 641XX series key codes were used
Beginning July 16, 1957 the 57 only handles was used until at least the end of August 1957
Sometime after September of 57 the A style handles and locks were used until September of 1961
September 1961 K100 644.613.901.09 ignition and door 356A, 356B up to chassis number 117600, 155600, 89600, 201600


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[Peter Venuti]

Thank you both for the responses. Rick, I followed the link and all the links from that thread but was unable to find a photo or explanation of where this gasket goes.

Mike I have heard this description before about a groove but I'm just not seeing it. When you say where the tumbler sides into the door handle I assume you mean the button(receiver) that holds the tumbler? If that is the case that gasket can only be in the handle the first 1/2 to 3/4 inch before the slide on the button that locks the handle protrudes from that receiver. I don't have a groove inside my handle that far forward.

[Rick Albro]

Peter, fair enough I guess that this seemed like a simple question but you are right to ask... I have taken a photo of an original door handle with the gasket in place. One can see from the surface the handles is all to original :>) There is a grove that the gasket fits into. For replacement type handles the grove is a different size. In the images that you show the view is not clear as to whether a grove exists or not? I have studied your images a bit more I don't see a grove. Some reproductions may not have this grove? The seal keep moisture and dirt grit out of the tumblers and mechanisms... Many of the pre A tumblers come apart in pieces because they have no seal... Porsche continuously made improvements and adding a seal was a good idea.

[Mike Wilson]

There was a run of exterior door handles by Porsche Classic that did not have the groove. Not sure if that was corrected.
Rick is right about the seals being different for original vs. repro handles. Thanks for posting that pic, Rick. Very helpful.

Mike

[Rick Albro]

Mike is probably right you have one of the reproduction handles without a grove.

[Peter Venuti]

Thank you Rick that photo is perfect! its exactly what I was thinking I should be looking for but isn't there. These handles are for a 62 B Coupe. As it turns out now that I know what I'm looking for and have looked more closly at both ahndles not just the one I had been working on I can see one has the groove the other does not(lucky me) . Thank you Mike for the insight of why there is no groove in some of the handles.

[Mike Wilson]

We're here to help each other out, Peter, and happy to do it.

Stay safe and well!

Mike

[Norm Miller]

I have found if your handle doesn't have the groove the best place is in a jar with other miscellaneous rubber parts.
Anyone driving their 356 in the snow or rain these days? No problemo.

[Mike Wilson]

Not sure how sloppy the fit of the receiver would be in the handle without the seal. It might rattle a bit.

Mike

[Peter Venuti]

For the handle without the groove a very small O ring seems to do the trick to keep it from rattling. Shown in the photo above along with both style replacement rubber rings.