Hole -- what happened here?
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
Is the cooling fan still intact?
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
The damage looks like it is external. Are we looking down at the right side carb?
Perhaps a tool or a nut/bolt left in the engine compartment got the slingshot effect from the fan belt?
Perhaps a tool or a nut/bolt left in the engine compartment got the slingshot effect from the fan belt?
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
Did somebody make room for some wacky throttle linkage like Delorto or Weber?
Easy enough to fix.
Easy enough to fix.
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
Yes, looking down from the right side. Sorry the picture is askew. Almost looks like something hit it a few times, lower and lower in progression until it went through.
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
I was thinking the same thing, Cliff. Instead of creating an indentation, a cut-out was made for the throttle lever.
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
TimD,
I guess the question is did it look like that when you got the car, or did the hole just appear one day?
I guess the question is did it look like that when you got the car, or did the hole just appear one day?
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
Just today using a Dremel with an 1/8" burr I made a similar mess of a piece of plastic (it didn't matter). It appears that was done to your air duct. Your throttle lever looks a bit chewed up as well.
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
I believe that is foreign object damage (FOD), something has been induced into the cooling intake duct and this is exit damaged from the fan spinning. A nut, shroud screw maybe. If it were me I would pull the generator and fan and do a visual inspection. It's hard to see the exit shear points in the photos, but it would bet there is witness marks in the fan, this is a exit point in the shroud. Look around the engine shelf, there may be a loose screw laying in the corner.
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
We will have to hear from Tim as to when this happened. I have doubts that the fan could get a screw going fast enough to go through metal, especially after making a 90 degree turn from the plane of the fan. That is a European heat duct I assume?
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
This is great! It's like one of those forensic crime solving dramas, what with "exit shear points" and discussing the velocity of an object making a 90 degree turn etc.
"CSI 356"
"CSI 356"
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
My grandfather and father were physicists, does that make me grandfathered in to know stuff that I don't know?
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
Absolutely, Martin! It's in your DNA!
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
This looks intentional, check out the "file" marks on the hole !
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Re: Hole -- what happened here?
Or threads from a bolt coming through from the inside. Bolt head at the bottom shank up. I would almost bet, if the rubber shelf seal is good, there is a loose bolt still on the shelf.Larry Coreth wrote:This looks intentional, check out the "file" marks on the hole !
John Brooks
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